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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:36

So ONE last time. Muder= Unlawful killing. Laws= Views. one man= one view. No laws= No muder. I'm goin to sleep.
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:37

Lil' PimP wrote:Just because theres two people doesnt make it legal, damn your stubborn, wtf so its legal now? no. murder is murder whether someone is there to put you thru the systemor not.


No, not now. But when its one man alive, ya, it is.
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:40

Logann wrote:So ONE last time. Muder= Unlawful killing. Laws= Views. one man= one view. No laws= No muder. I'm goin to sleep.


you sound like you're saying if he's going to be charged for murder :confusion:


all laws aside.....if you kill someone it's murder no matter what that other person may think he can try to convince himself that it's not murder but in his own mind he knows it's murder
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Postby Lil Pimp Tell 'Em » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:41

argh NO. since when was killing legal?! its not. AGAIN whether there is some to put you thru the system or not its still illegal beacuase its a LAW. just beacuase theres no one to witness dont make it legal.
lets put it this way.. you live somewhere that pretty much no one knows about with one other person that isnt in any records, and you kill him and theres no way any one can find out. murder? yes. will you be put thru the legal system? no. either way it is illegal. killing is not legal unless your put thru death sentence and is the person? no. so just because no one will be able to find out. its STILL murder whether you, or anyone else admits it.

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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:41

MuNxMuN wrote:
Logann wrote:So ONE last time. Muder= Unlawful killing. Laws= Views. one man= one view. No laws= No muder. I'm goin to sleep.


you sound like you're saying if he's going to be charged for murder :confusion:


all laws aside.....if you kill someone it's murder no matter what that other person may think he can try to convince himself that it's not murder but in his own mind he knows it's murder


So sais you. This is comming from a man that doesn't think so.. Jus because you think he must know it's unlawful doesn't mean it is.
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:44

Lil' PimP wrote:argh NO. since when was killing legal?! its not. AGAIN whether there is some to put you thru the system or not its still illegal beacuase its a LAW. just beacuase theres no one to witness dont make it legal.
lets put it this way.. you live somewhere that pretty much no one knows about with one other person that isnt in any records, and you kill him and theres no way any one can find out. murder? yes. will you be put thru the legal system? no. either way it is illegal. killing is not legal unless your put thru death sentence and is the person? no. so just because no one will be able to find out. its STILL murder whether you, or anyone else admits it.

good night :wave:


Do you know what murder is? Come back then. Because, it's simpley not if there are no laws. And, in this situation there are none. Laws are esentially the views of men... Murder is illegal now. But in this situation due to the fact that there are no laws Pimpie.
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:46

MuNxMuN wrote:
Logann wrote:So ONE last time. Muder= Unlawful killing. Laws= Views. one man= one view. No laws= No muder. I'm goin to sleep.


you sound like you're saying if he's going to be charged for murder :confusion:


all laws aside.....if you kill someone it's murder no matter what that other person may think he can try to convince himself that it's not murder but in his own mind he knows it's murder
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Postby Lil Pimp Tell 'Em » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:48

Logann wrote:
Lil' PimP wrote:argh NO. since when was killing legal?! its not. AGAIN whether there is some to put you thru the system or not its still illegal beacuase its a LAW. just beacuase theres no one to witness dont make it legal.
lets put it this way.. you live somewhere that pretty much no one knows about with one other person that isnt in any records, and you kill him and theres no way any one can find out. murder? yes. will you be put thru the legal system? no. either way it is illegal. killing is not legal unless your put thru death sentence and is the person? no. so just because no one will be able to find out. its STILL murder whether you, or anyone else admits it.

good night :wave:


Do you know what murder is? Come back then. Because, it's simpley not if there are no laws. And, in this situation there are none. Laws are esentially the views of men... Murder is illegal now. But in this situation due to the fact that there are no laws Pimpie.


ok i get what your sayin.. what i thought you meant was everyone died except for 2 people. but you mean there was only 2 people.. so yeah i guess it would make it legal if there was no other people to make laws.. if you woulda explained better :unsure: so yeah , i mean that person dont know that its illegal so it makes it legal :unsure:
so in this case it is not murder
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:48

Logann wrote:
MuNxMuN wrote:
Logann wrote:So ONE last time. Muder= Unlawful killing. Laws= Views. one man= one view. No laws= No muder. I'm goin to sleep.


you sound like you're saying if he's going to be charged for murder :confusion:


all laws aside.....if you kill someone it's murder no matter what that other person may think he can try to convince himself that it's not murder but in his own mind he knows it's murder


So sais you. This is comming from a man that doesn't think so.. Jus because you think he must know it's unlawful doesn't mean it is.


ok he killed the guy....go look in a thesaurous and you will find killing and murder together cause they basically have the same definition and it's to end the life of another living being


just cause there's no laws doesn't mean there's no such thing as murder :confusion: if you killed someone in 2000BC it's still murder and back then i doubt they established laws


and stop saying we don't know what the word is maybe you need to understand the word more :flower:
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:49

Lil' PimP wrote:
Logann wrote:
Lil' PimP wrote:argh NO. since when was killing legal?! its not. AGAIN whether there is some to put you thru the system or not its still illegal beacuase its a LAW. just beacuase theres no one to witness dont make it legal.
lets put it this way.. you live somewhere that pretty much no one knows about with one other person that isnt in any records, and you kill him and theres no way any one can find out. murder? yes. will you be put thru the legal system? no. either way it is illegal. killing is not legal unless your put thru death sentence and is the person? no. so just because no one will be able to find out. its STILL murder whether you, or anyone else admits it.

good night :wave:


Do you know what murder is? Come back then. Because, it's simpley not if there are no laws. And, in this situation there are none. Laws are esentially the views of men... Murder is illegal now. But in this situation due to the fact that there are no laws Pimpie.


ok i get what your sayin.. what i thought you meant was everyone died except for 2 people. but you mean there was only 2 people.. so yeah i guess it would make it legal if there was no other people to make laws.. if you woulda explained better :unsure: so yeah , i mean that person dont know that its illegal so it makes it legal :unsure:
so in this case it is not murder
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it's not murder in crime sense but it's murder in an action sense
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Postby Lil Pimp Tell 'Em » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:53

MuNxMuN wrote:
Lil' PimP wrote:
Logann wrote:
Lil' PimP wrote:argh NO. since when was killing legal?! its not. AGAIN whether there is some to put you thru the system or not its still illegal beacuase its a LAW. just beacuase theres no one to witness dont make it legal.
lets put it this way.. you live somewhere that pretty much no one knows about with one other person that isnt in any records, and you kill him and theres no way any one can find out. murder? yes. will you be put thru the legal system? no. either way it is illegal. killing is not legal unless your put thru death sentence and is the person? no. so just because no one will be able to find out. its STILL murder whether you, or anyone else admits it.

good night :wave:


Do you know what murder is? Come back then. Because, it's simpley not if there are no laws. And, in this situation there are none. Laws are esentially the views of men... Murder is illegal now. But in this situation due to the fact that there are no laws Pimpie.


ok i get what your sayin.. what i thought you meant was everyone died except for 2 people. but you mean there was only 2 people.. so yeah i guess it would make it legal if there was no other people to make laws.. if you woulda explained better :unsure: so yeah , i mean that person dont know that its illegal so it makes it legal :unsure:
so in this case it is not murder
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it's not murder in crime sense but it's murder in an action sense


no it's not because for all we know this guy doesnt even know what murder is and even tho he murdered someone there IS NO LAWS.. to say he has to be put thru the legal system ;)
at the time that he did it, there was nothin wrong, but say 50 years kater theres a lot of people and they made laws then his past actions would have been illegal
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:56

Lil' PimP wrote:
MuNxMuN wrote:
Lil' PimP wrote:
Logann wrote:
Lil' PimP wrote:argh NO. since when was killing legal?! its not. AGAIN whether there is some to put you thru the system or not its still illegal beacuase its a LAW. just beacuase theres no one to witness dont make it legal.
lets put it this way.. you live somewhere that pretty much no one knows about with one other person that isnt in any records, and you kill him and theres no way any one can find out. murder? yes. will you be put thru the legal system? no. either way it is illegal. killing is not legal unless your put thru death sentence and is the person? no. so just because no one will be able to find out. its STILL murder whether you, or anyone else admits it.

good night :wave:


Do you know what murder is? Come back then. Because, it's simpley not if there are no laws. And, in this situation there are none. Laws are esentially the views of men... Murder is illegal now. But in this situation due to the fact that there are no laws Pimpie.


ok i get what your sayin.. what i thought you meant was everyone died except for 2 people. but you mean there was only 2 people.. so yeah i guess it would make it legal if there was no other people to make laws.. if you woulda explained better :unsure: so yeah , i mean that person dont know that its illegal so it makes it legal :unsure:
so in this case it is not murder
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it's not murder in crime sense but it's murder in an action sense


no it's not because for all we know this guy doesnt even know what murder is and even tho he murdered someone there IS NO LAWS.. to say he has to be put thru the legal system ;)
at the time that he did it, there was nothin wrong, but say 50 years kater theres a lot of people and they made laws then his past actions would have been illegal


we're not debating on the legal issues of course it's gonna be legal since he's gonna be the only one living

i'm saying it would still be murder because murder doesn't have to be unlawful, if you kill someone it's murder
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Postby Lil Pimp Tell 'Em » Oct 3rd, '06, 05:00

you know what max :tounge2:
IT IS NOT MURDER BECAUSE THERE IS NO LAW
when there was no laws against enslaving blacks was it illegal? no.. is it now? yes
AT THE TIME THAT HE DID IT, IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LAW :angry:
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 05:03

Lil' PimP wrote:you know what max :tounge2:
IT IS NOT MURDER BECAUSE THERE IS NO LAW
when there was no laws against enslaving blacks was it illegal? no.. is it now? yes
AT THE TIME THAT HE DID IT, IT WAS NOT ILLEGAL BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LAW :angry:


geez calm down :laughing:

so you're saying if there's no law there's no such thing as murder right? :flutter:


you like logan would probably call it killing too and killing=murder *nods* :p
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 11:52

no, it doesn't max.. They're synonymes because they both kill, but murder is only when unlawful.. Make sure to ask your teracher.
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