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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 21st, '12, 07:50

So because <. 01% of the gun owners have changed the entire gun culture has changed. Seems legit
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Re: Guns

Postby SliK » Dec 21st, '12, 07:53

Are you denying that gun violence and massacres are more common now than they were 20 years ago?
If not, how would you account for it if not for a changing gun culture?
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 21st, '12, 16:23

SliK wrote:Are you denying that gun violence and massacres are more common now than they were 20 years ago?
If not, how would you account for it if not for a changing gun culture?


Gun violence is less common then it was 20 years ago :unsure:
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 21st, '12, 17:40

Menzo wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
SliK wrote:Are you denying that gun violence and massacres are more common now than they were 20 years ago?
If not, how would you account for it if not for a changing gun culture?


Gun violence is less common then it was 20 years ago :unsure:

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Are you trying to deny that? lmao The early 1990's had the highest crime rates in history
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Re: Guns

Postby Amaranthine » Dec 21st, '12, 17:42

A) No one except cops/military should have access to assault weapons.
B) The mental health system is completely fucked up. They need to keep guns away from the mentally ill, which they are absolutely NOT doing right now.

Also, fun fact, the US has the second highest murder rate on the planet, 15%. Second to Africa by like two percent...and #3 is the UK, with like 3%.
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 21st, '12, 17:44

Amaranthine wrote:Also, fun fact, the US has the second highest murder rate on the planet, 15%. Second to Africa by like two percent...and #3 is the UK, with like 3%.


Well that's just a flat lie
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Re: Guns

Postby Amaranthine » Dec 21st, '12, 17:44

Take it up with MSNBC, they were throwing out stats this morning.
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 21st, '12, 17:46

No, you read the facts wrong. THE AMERICA'S (North America + Central America + South America) has the second highest homicide rate of all the regions. Africa is first at 17% and Europe is third at 3.5%
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Re: Guns

Postby Amaranthine » Dec 21st, '12, 17:48

Ah, thanks for that. :y: Still, that's ridiculous.
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 21st, '12, 17:49

Amaranthine wrote:Ah, thanks for that. :y: Still, that's ridiculous.


Yeah but it's because of all those crazy fuckers in Central America and South America. Not the United States.
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Re: Guns

Postby Amaranthine » Dec 21st, '12, 17:56

Yeah, true..I just looked it up, and the US murder rate is only 4.2%, I think from 2011. Mexico's 16.9%.

Anyway, I'm more concerned about the mentally ill's access to guns. The current system doesn't work.
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 21st, '12, 17:57

Yeah we need to fix our mental health care system, that's for sure.
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Re: Guns

Postby NextEpisode » Dec 21st, '12, 18:00

Immortal Technique said this just recently;

"...I think there something more that should be brought up for the "gun nuts" out there that say;

"Ohh, if they take our guns [away], then the government can just"...

Let's me tell you something;... Do you think your little p-shooter is gonna do anything against their fuckin armored division tanks or marines. Are you out of your fuckin mind [?]. Do you think you and you malisha-men in Montana can do anything against a carpet bombing [?]. Or how about this, I don't have to make it like that, if they wanna get you homie, they'll just turn the water off. [...]. It doesn't need to be some complicated illuminati conspiracy theory..."
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Re: Guns

Postby Neiro » Dec 21st, '12, 23:21

That and the rappper Gunplay said on twitter "Government killed dem kids to take away our guns away. Another 9/11. Dont get it twisted." Is it ignorance or scary shit?
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Re: Guns

Postby Minimii » Dec 22nd, '12, 02:39

But if we think it like this:
Why should USA have so lax gun laws when in the Europe (for example) they are lot stricter and it hasnt had any negative impact, only positive.
In fact i think that US of A should just staright up copy Europe becoz europeans have higher standard of living pretty much in every aspect.
Personally i think that if it comes to a choice between 100k people's enjoyable gun hobby or 100 people's lives i'd choose the latter one.
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