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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 01:07

If two humans were left alive in the world, and one killed the other, would it still be considered murder if nobody else is there to think it is wrong?
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Postby Coccoa » Oct 3rd, '06, 01:40

HELLO!!!!

Earth calls Logann.

Nearly 100 million humans died during WW2 and you talking about 2 people left on the planet????

Murder is to kill a fly that is bothering you, murder is to rip off onions and potatoes to eat em, everything is murder.
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 01:52

Well I've been talkin bout it in a debate on 4cahn so I thought it was owrth amkin a topic about here.

Law is ultimately an expression of ethical views of a society, so it would be entirely up to the singel representative of saud society to define law aka ethical backbone of a society of one person.

The answer is: would he consider it murder?

Simple enough, isnt it?

Well its not.

Roman principle of nullum crimen or whatsisname supposes a society of more than 2 people as a base which it is defined upon, isnt it?

So its about "when" is the time when the deed is evaluated? Is it the time of the killing pr the time after the killing?

If you consider the exact time of the deed the definition is NOT about the ethical disposition of the killer but about the common denomiator.
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Postby BaZZ » Oct 3rd, '06, 03:19

Coccoa wrote:murder is to rip off onions and potatoes to eat em


:laughing:
"Hard hearted beast with a jaw full of meat
Engulfed in a feast while you starve at his feet
He toss you the least little portion of a piece
To the floor and expect you to rejoice when you eat" - Brother Ali
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 03:53

well isn't the definition of murder the killing of another person/living thing?



so if you kill someone, despite how many people are left in the world, it's still murder ;)



if you kill anything living it's murder you cant' justify it :flower:
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 03:55

The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.


;) Unlawful. That's why I posted all that.
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:03

well murder can be a crime or an action....and i'm talking the action not the crime cause crime is kinda/somewhat opinionised


if you murder you kill someone....so if you kill someone it's murder :flower:


murder doesn't have to be unlawful cause it can be legal in who knows where
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:06

MuNxMuN wrote:well murder can be a crime or an action....and i'm talking the action not the crime cause crime is kinda/somewhat opinionised


if you murder you kill someone....so if you kill someone it's murder :flower:


murder doesn't have to be unlawful cause it can be legal in who knows where

It's not murder then, duh. -_-
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:09

Logann wrote:
MuNxMuN wrote:well murder can be a crime or an action....and i'm talking the action not the crime cause crime is kinda/somewhat opinionised


if you murder you kill someone....so if you kill someone it's murder :flower:


murder doesn't have to be unlawful cause it can be legal in who knows where

It's not murder then, duh. -_-

wtf are you talking about?



murder is murder......doesn' thave to be unlawful to be considered murder
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:15

Yes it does, learn the word then come back.
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Postby MuNxMuN » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:18

Logann wrote:Yes it does, learn the word then come back.


i know what the word is i'm not THAT dumb but w.e i give up

you with your wannabe nerdness :laughing: you can say you won or w.e i can care less :flower:
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Postby Lil Pimp Tell 'Em » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:31

MuNxMuN wrote:well murder can be a crime or an action....and i'm talking the action not the crime cause crime is kinda/somewhat opinionised


if you murder you kill someone....so if you kill someone it's murder :flower:


murder doesn't have to be unlawful cause it can be legal in who knows where


when they give someone the death sentence.. thats legal isnt it?

and it dont matter if theres 2 people left and you murder the other, its still murder, no ones there to put you through the legal system, but murder is murder (like what max n sarah said) :flower:
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:34

Sarah wrote:
MuNxMuN wrote:well isn't the definition of murder the killing of another person/living thing?



so if you kill someone, despite how many people are left in the world, it's still murder ;)



if you kill anything living it's murder you cant' justify it :flower:

WORD! :worship:



Just because there's no law to comfirm it murder, doesn't mean it's not murder. It's still killing someone, and killing another human being is murder....unless it's accidentlal...but in this case, it's killing another human being on purpose



Okay, I'm gonna say this shit once. Murder is only murder when unlawful. Laws are views. Views are from people. One person, one view. It's not against him. So, laws? No. So, Muder? No.

I tried dumbing my post up..
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Postby Logann » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:35

Lil' PimP wrote:
MuNxMuN wrote:well murder can be a crime or an action....and i'm talking the action not the crime cause crime is kinda/somewhat opinionised


if you murder you kill someone....so if you kill someone it's murder :flower:


murder doesn't have to be unlawful cause it can be legal in who knows where


when they give someone the death sentence.. thats legal isnt it?

and it dont matter if theres 2 people left and you murder the other, its still murder, no ones there to put you through the legal system, but murder is murder (like what max n sarah said) :flower:

Yeah. murder = murder. All killing=/= Murder in the time when two men roam the earth
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Postby Lil Pimp Tell 'Em » Oct 3rd, '06, 04:36

Just because theres two people doesnt make it legal, damn your stubborn, wtf so its legal now? no. murder is murder whether someone is there to put you thru the systemor not.
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