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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Table » Feb 9th, '13, 15:05

Amadeo wrote:
This part is pretty bad in particular:

all I need's a line but sometimes,
I dont always find the words to rhyme,
to express how i'm really feeling at that time,
yeah sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, just sometimes



well, I know he had already used something similar to end "Any Man" but it's far from being "pretty bad". It's actually quite dope.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Eedee » Feb 9th, '13, 15:09

Amadeo wrote:Rabbit Run is pretty average. Pretty lazy how he uses "shit" four times in the opening rhyme scheme.

This part is pretty bad in particular:

all I need's a line but sometimes,
I dont always find the words to rhyme,
to express how i'm really feeling at that time,
yeah sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, just sometimes

As good as 8 Mile Road is, it's not even in the same universe as Lose Yourself.


That's the whole point of that part. Sometimes he can't find the words to rhyme... hence why that part wasn't the usual complexity of rhyming that Em had back then.

And then right after that, he goes back to the kick-ass flow/rhyming. You're disregarding the WHOLE rest of the song to focus on a misconstrued part.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Trimss » Feb 9th, '13, 15:13

Everything is perfect in that song. People got interested in rhyme schemes because of it. (And I mean casual people, not rappers who already knew how to rhyme), that piano/vinyl scratch intro is dope as fuck and everyone knows it.
That guitarish beat is amazing, and again, it's really hard not to recognize the song. The chorus is catchy, motivating. It pumps you up.

The verses are perfect. 15/10 would listen again.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby LEVITIKUZ » Feb 9th, '13, 15:21

The best song ever made? Ever made? No. I don't think I can put Lose Youself ahead of a couple Michael Jackson or James Brown songs yet. Now best hip-hop song ever? Debatable but for me it's Walk This Way.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Table » Feb 9th, '13, 15:32

Amadeo wrote:I'm guessing you're drawing that comparison due to the somethin/somethin/somethin and sometimes/sometimes/sometimes thing, but that's where the similarities end.

One is a clever, creative joke that breaks the fourth wall. The other is Eminem rambling about writer's block (and he appears to be in writer's block), where he uses "time" three times in the same uncreative, monosyllabic rhyme scheme. The repetition in the last bar of the Any Man verse has a point to it (it's a joke)...the repetition in RR is just pointless filler.



No, not just that. I was drawing comparison due to the intentionally ironic (?) nature of the RRR lines although now I realize they are nothing like the Any Man bar. My bad.

Amadeo wrote:I suppose Eminem could be commenting on his own writer's block by writing about writer's block in such an uncreative way...but somehow I think that's a huge reach.


This. Exactly the type of artistry Eminem is known for and is faaaaaaaar from a reach.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Table » Feb 9th, '13, 15:43

I think I was going for 'I can write crap and still be creative with it' theme that Any Man bar and those RRR lines share when comparing the two, ya feel?
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Table » Feb 9th, '13, 16:08

Amadeo wrote:
Table wrote:I think I was going for 'I can write crap and still be creative with it' theme that Any Man bar and those RRR lines share when comparing the two, ya feel?

I don't think Eminem's point is that he is writing crap. He's trying to say that JImmy Smith Jr. is writing crap, and Jimmy is throwing his poor lyrics in the trash. Eminem is trying to write well...and he isn't. He's merely doing OK (I have to give him credit for sticking to a concept for a few bars).


I meant just the narrator in general, persona he has adopted is immaterial to the point.

Saying a not so ingenious line with a following excuse for the former or the vice versa.

"SOMETIMES I always don't find the words to rhyme....SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES JUST SOMETIMES."
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby SajN » Feb 9th, '13, 16:10

I think that Lose Yourself is GOAT, but I also think that 8 Mile Road is better than Lose Yourself.

It's weird, I know, but I can't help feeling this way.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby EminemBase » Feb 9th, '13, 16:47

Elision wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRhq-yO1KN8


I like "Imagine" a lot, but it's not better than "Lose Yourself".
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Jimmy Conway » Feb 9th, '13, 16:48

I don't think it's the best song ever made.

It's not even the best Eminem song.

It's pretty good though. I never listen to it anymore though.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Kill You » Feb 9th, '13, 17:34

Tomer666 wrote:No doubt it's one of his best songs ever.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby sbolli1 » Feb 9th, '13, 17:54

One of the best hip-hop song ever made. It's pretty much flawless.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby LMShady » Feb 9th, '13, 18:36

Yeah, best song of all time is a little generous but it's definitely top 3 of Eminem/ Hip-hop in general.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby UofLCard » Feb 9th, '13, 19:00

Inkredible wrote:8 Mile >>>>>>> Lose Yourself


I kind of agree with this.

But I do think the choir remix of LY is really good.
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Re: Lose Yourself is the best song ever made

Postby Elision » Feb 9th, '13, 22:51

EminemBase wrote:
Elision wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRhq-yO1KN8


I like "Imagine" a lot, but it's not better than "Lose Yourself".
shouldn't even be in the same catergory. two totally different polarities. i was just poking fun at trex :flutter:

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