momentisgolden wrote:3 Am- whatever happened to being subtle?! This track just makes "serial killer" tracks look bad! Music Box, Stay Wide Awake, Same Song and Dance, Bonnie And Cylde, Kim then... 3 am?!
1. Since when has Eminem been subtle? lmfao. He's always delivered sledgehammer blows to the head as an artist, always been an extremist and pushed everything to the limit.
2. "97 Bonnie and Clyde" and "Kim" aren't 'serial killer' songs. They're storytelling tracks about a fantasy situation of him killing his real-life wife.
That's entirely different to the point of Relapse or those tracks. Trying to lump all those tracks in is just a misunderstanding of all of it lmao. On Relapse he embodies a serial killer. Rather than just talking about it - BECOME it.
And he's always been about that. That's what the entire premise of The Marshall Mathers LP was. He's always embodied persona's and creations through words. Relapse is just another extreme of that, except instead of doing it in bursts he does it for entire tracks at a time.
Those tracks are fucking awesome.
momentisgolden wrote:My Mom- the subject matter. C'mon, i've had enough of Eminems mom to be honest.
Bagpies from Baghdad- this is what defines "run accent into the ground" Overdid it here
Taking My Ball and Must be the Ganja- Relapse was too long and Refill should never have come out. These would be the two i'd "sacrifice"
Yeah but he ackowledges that on "My Mom" straight away, that's the point of it. Pushing things beyond stale, beyond overuse, just beyond all limits of mentioning.
I know you're probably tired of hearing about my mom...
I would be annoyed if it was another self-serious track about his mother but it's not. It's a self-parody and a good attempt at vintage Shady satire on his life. Just like mentioning Christopher Reeves for 10 years, it's beyond the point of saying "it's redundant now", it's redundant to call it redundant lmao. As that's his aim.
Also, people always say he's done a lot of shit about his mother when in reality he's only actually done two proper tracks to her lmao. "Cleanin' Out My Closet" and "My Mom", other than that it's been sporadic mentioning in bursts.
Which is hardly a lot when you consider he's put out hundreds of tracks.
As for "Bagpipes" - that song is pure class. The rhyming and flows are hypnotic, one of the best songs on Relapse. It's not an accent, it's a way of bolderizing rhymes. It is no 'one accent', he's emphasising syllables and there's plenty other things he's "run into the ground" than that.
How the fuck did he run it into the ground? that was the FIRST and only album he did that haha, ridiculous. As I say, many other things he's run into the ground, that isn't one of them though. He was just getting started with that.
Refill shouldn't of come out no. Relapse 2 should of. If he only had stuck to his word of 'doing what he wants and fuck what everyone thinks' instead of listening to whiny 10 year olds who want fake emotion and bitching every track, and sacrificing his vision in response.
