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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby EminemInsider » Sep 28th, '14, 05:35

Menzo wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:"So there's nothin' for me to fallbackon"


That's equally as frustrating/annoying/"sloppy" as Em cramming in "I'm not gonna be able to top a My Name Is" or his closing bars on "Say Goodbye Hollywood".

EminemInsider wrote:The 3rd verse of So Far is a great example of where his lines alternated between being too short or too long for the tempo and he had to dance around to make it fit.

You're entitled to prefer that if you'd like, but it kills me when the meaning and feel of poignant writing becomes completely buried in Eminem's forced flows.


I feel like sometimes people think that if Em isn't rapping straight through with an "unbroken" flow and does a choppy or bit of a stutter than it's cuz he's trying to cram or fit words in as opposed to a stylistic choice.


Yeah, The Way I Am seems to be Eminem quickly trying to write a rant down on paper and finding ways to make things rhyme, and in that particular section he was a syllable off in rhyming stop with the fables/not gonna be able, which threw off his canned flow.

The ending to Say Goodbye to Hollywood is a mouthful that he has to fit into the bars, but it's not the result of Eminem trying to hit each syllable in a specific place on the beat. He just picked a word with 3 extra syllables, "alienated," for was to give Hailie/us to live (ali)enated because the word expressed what he wanted to so perfectly, and ending a verse on non-rhyming syllables makes it the last thing you remember, so he added in "so I'm sayin'" to try to tie it together a little better. The difference here is Eminem was not thinking about syllabic placement, he was thinking about his voice acting as he kept tempo. In his modern work, it's the other way around.
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby Raul » Sep 28th, '14, 11:19

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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby SliK » Sep 28th, '14, 12:35

Where is the '97 Bonnie and Clyde, Rock Bottom, Just/Still Don't Give a Fuck on MMLP2?

Lines like:
"I get imaginative with a mouthful of adjectives, a brain full of adverbs and a box full of laxatives"

"I want the money, the women, the fortune, and the fame
That Means I'll end up burning in hell scorching in flames
That means I'm stealing your checkbook and forging your name
This lifetime bliss for eternal torture and pain"

"Man, ain't you ever seen that one movie 'Kids'?
No, but I seen the porno with SunDoobiest!"

And my favourite on the album, which is so much more clever than literally any of the "clever" lines on MMLP2 (which are what, by the way?):
"I just remembered that I'm absent minded... Wait, I mean I lost my mind, I can't find it!"
The brilliance of that line must be lost on you for you to think anything on MMLP2 touches that.
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby csw621 » Sep 28th, '14, 13:42

All my life I was told and taught I am not shit
By you wack fucking giant sacks of lying dog shit
Now you shut up bitch I am talking
Thought I was full of horseshit and now
You fucking worship the ground on which I am walking

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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby Mr Change » Sep 28th, '14, 15:42

SliK wrote:Where is the '97 Bonnie and Clyde, Rock Bottom, Just/Still Don't Give a Fuck on MMLP2?

Lines like:
"I get imaginative with a mouthful of adjectives, a brain full of adverbs and a box full of laxatives"

"I want the money, the women, the fortune, and the fame
That Means I'll end up burning in hell scorching in flames
That means I'm stealing your checkbook and forging your name
This lifetime bliss for eternal torture and pain"

"Man, ain't you ever seen that one movie 'Kids'?
No, but I seen the porno with SunDoobiest!"

And my favourite on the album, which is so much more clever than literally any of the "clever" lines on MMLP2 (which are what, by the way?):
"I just remembered that I'm absent minded... Wait, I mean I lost my mind, I can't find it!"
The brilliance of that line must be lost on you for you to think anything on MMLP2 touches that.


So Far..., Rhyme or Reason, Brainless, Rap God, Evil Twin?
Lines like;

"They call me classless, I heard that, I second and third that
Don't know what the fuck I'd be doing if it weren't rap"

"("Hip-hop is the devil's music") Does that mean it belongs to me?
Cause I just happen to be, a white honky devil with two horns
That don't honk but every time I speak you hear a beep
But, lyrically, I never hear a peep, not even a whisper
Rappers better stay clear of me, bitch!"

"Little homos get over your fears and phobias
It's okay to be scared straight, they said I provoke queers
'Til emotions evoke tears, my whole career's
A stroke of sheer genius, smoke and mirrors, tactical, practical jokes, yeah
You mothafuckin' (insert insult here)"

"Everybody want the key and the secret to rap immortality like I have got
Well, to be truthful the blueprint's
Simply rage and youthful exuberance
Everybody loves to root for a nuisance"

Ya'll sleeping on classic MMLP2 lines that won't be properly recognized until years from now fam :y:
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby shadyblogger » Sep 28th, '14, 16:46

Mr Change wrote:
SliK wrote:Where is the '97 Bonnie and Clyde, Rock Bottom, Just/Still Don't Give a Fuck on MMLP2?

Lines like:
"I get imaginative with a mouthful of adjectives, a brain full of adverbs and a box full of laxatives"

"I want the money, the women, the fortune, and the fame
That Means I'll end up burning in hell scorching in flames
That means I'm stealing your checkbook and forging your name
This lifetime bliss for eternal torture and pain"

"Man, ain't you ever seen that one movie 'Kids'?
No, but I seen the porno with SunDoobiest!"

And my favourite on the album, which is so much more clever than literally any of the "clever" lines on MMLP2 (which are what, by the way?):
"I just remembered that I'm absent minded... Wait, I mean I lost my mind, I can't find it!"
The brilliance of that line must be lost on you for you to think anything on MMLP2 touches that.


So Far..., Rhyme or Reason, Brainless, Rap God, Evil Twin?
Lines like;

"They call me classless, I heard that, I second and third that
Don't know what the fuck I'd be doing if it weren't rap"

"("Hip-hop is the devil's music") Does that mean it belongs to me?
Cause I just happen to be, a white honky devil with two horns
That don't honk but every time I speak you hear a beep
But, lyrically, I never hear a peep, not even a whisper
Rappers better stay clear of me, bitch!"

"Little homos get over your fears and phobias
It's okay to be scared straight, they said I provoke queers
'Til emotions evoke tears, my whole career's
A stroke of sheer genius, smoke and mirrors, tactical, practical jokes, yeah
You mothafuckin' (insert insult here)"

"Everybody want the key and the secret to rap immortality like I have got
Well, to be truthful the blueprint's
Simply rage and youthful exuberance
Everybody loves to root for a nuisance"

Ya'll sleeping on classic MMLP2 lines that won't be properly recognized until years from now fam :y:


Those lines along with many others are truly brilliant
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby kkaniff » Sep 28th, '14, 17:58

@Menzo, I like The SSLP, but I strongly disagree with that.
Just off top:
- Here's the sequel to my Mathers LP...
- Michelangelo with a paintgun...
- insert insult here...
and countless others are easily on the level of those on SSLP, with the first example being my 2nd fave line ever.
Incidentally, my fave line ever is also from The MMLP 2 - tragic potrait of an artist, tortured, trapped in his own drawings -there's a lot of wit on the MMLP2, sure, a lot of it is less outrageous than the stuff on SSLP, but ultimately that doesn't really mean anything.
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby shadyblogger » Sep 28th, '14, 18:37

Both albums are dope af

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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby yoda you can call me » Sep 28th, '14, 20:59

StayWideAwake wrote:MMLP2 being 4th isn't even bad at all. It has 3 phenomenal albums in front of it. It has always been "is it as good as the top 3", but Em has a powerful top 4 at this point.

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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby Notalius » Sep 28th, '14, 21:24

mmlp2 top3 though
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby Mr Evil » Sep 28th, '14, 21:33

SSLP still sounds fresh.
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby Notalius » Sep 28th, '14, 22:15

Mr Evil wrote:SSLP still sounds fresh.


don't be lying to yourself .. a shitload of them beats sound dated as fuck
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby shadyblogger » Sep 28th, '14, 22:17

StayWideAwake wrote:MMLP2 being 4th isn't even bad at all. It has 3 phenomenal albums in front of it. It has always been "is it as good as the top 3", but Em has a powerful top 4 at this point.


Probably the most on point thing I've ever read on this forum :y: I wish I could give you a thousand thumbs up
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby Josh » Sep 29th, '14, 00:05

Blogs McGooch wrote:
StayWideAwake wrote:MMLP2 being 4th isn't even bad at all. It has 3 phenomenal albums in front of it. It has always been "is it as good as the top 3", but Em has a powerful top 4 at this point.


Probably the most on point thing I've ever read on this forum 1000 x :y:
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Re: #teamMMLP2>SSLP

Postby Raul » Sep 29th, '14, 00:06

StayWideAwake wrote:MMLP2 being 4th isn't even bad at all. It has 3 phenomenal albums in front of it. It has always been "is it as good as the top 3", but Em has a powerful top 4 at this point.

nice theory, but mmlp2 > sslp

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