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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby Snakebeast » May 10th, '14, 00:50

Why is it that every thread where Tech is even mentioned there has to be some argument going on between Elision and half the forum?
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby King Lance » May 10th, '14, 01:05

Snakebeast wrote:Why is it that every thread where Tech is even mentioned there has to be some argument going on between Elision and half the forum?


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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby Elision » May 10th, '14, 07:52

bigray wrote:Royce got his first gold album for Hell: The Sequel because of Eminem which is quite clear, Tech is like 42 years old and he's never had any radio success, because of Kendrick being on Fragile is what got Tech the radio success, that's all i meant.....you cant deny that.
Actually I can (and do) deny that. And the Royce comparison is irrelevant given Royce's career when held up next to Em's. However, in doing the same between Kendrick/Tech, you find that Tech has been in the game 4x longer, his discography is more than 5x larger (unless Kendrick's got an insane amount of rare/unlisted feature verses or whatever), and most importantly his influence on hiphop and the artists within it over the last decade or so is only rivaled by people like Em given that he single-handedly paved the way for independent rappers (who work hard enough) to be able to achieve real global success. And without having to kiss the ass of the industry and those who run it. So I don't think most people understand how important this song getting radio success has. And I don't think much of it has to do with Kendrick, given that people have known of Tech N9ne for much longer. Which isn't to say that I don't think he did well on the song! it's one of my favorite Kendrick verses ever, but if what you're saying is that Kendrick put Tech on his back and carried him to success with this song, then why hasn't the same happened with I Love Music? I mean keep in mind neither track is found on any of Kendrick's albums.
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Snakebeast wrote:Why is it that every thread where Tech is even mentioned there has to be some argument going on between Elision and half the forum?


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edit: no but that one honestly stung :'( i think i'm gonna leave the forum for a bit. i'll see you guys in a couple days, pm me if you need my attention.
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby King Lance » May 10th, '14, 09:01

Elision wrote:
bigray wrote:Royce got his first gold album for Hell: The Sequel because of Eminem which is quite clear, Tech is like 42 years old and he's never had any radio success, because of Kendrick being on Fragile is what got Tech the radio success, that's all i meant.....you cant deny that.
Actually I can (and do) deny that. And the Royce comparison is irrelevant given Royce's career when held up next to Em's. However, in doing the same between Kendrick/Tech, you find that Tech has been in the game 4x longer, his discography is more than 5x larger (unless Kendrick's got an insane amount of rare/unlisted feature verses or whatever), and most importantly his influence on hiphop and the artists within it over the last decade or so is only rivaled by people like Em given that he single-handedly paved the way for independent rappers (who work hard enough) to be able to achieve real global success. And without having to kiss the ass of the industry and those who run it. So I don't think most people understand how important this song getting radio success has. And I don't think much of it has to do with Kendrick, given that people have known of Tech N9ne for much longer. Which isn't to say that I don't think he did well on the song! it's one of my favorite Kendrick verses ever, but if what you're saying is that Kendrick put Tech on his back and carried him to success with this song, then why hasn't the same happened with I Love Music? I mean keep in mind neither track is found on any of Kendrick's albums.
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Snakebeast wrote:Why is it that every thread where Tech is even mentioned there has to be some argument going on between Elision and half the forum?


how to say...

if Trshady was the Earth, Elision would be:

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edit: no but that one honestly stung :'( i think i'm gonna leave the forum for a bit. i'll see you guys in a couple days, pm me if you need my attention.



I was joking with that pic lol :p


btw... YouTube viewership now sits alongside digital downloads, physical sales, and streaming, among other metrics, to determine the position of a song in the billboard Charts. it means that having a big or hot artist featured on your song (even a bad one)is a nice way to have more radio spins and more views on youtube/spotify.

I don't think bigray was shitting on tech n9ne, he was just pointing out that kendrick has a lot of fans in the rap community and it's probably the reason why the song received a lot of attention from these urban radio stations... it is how it works from a business perspective & it has nothing to do with the quality of the song.

As for "I love Music", it didn't blow up because both of them were indie artists at the time. And tbh, Kendrick doesn't even care about how that song became big... he seems to love tech n9ne & he's probably happy for him :y:
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby Trimss » May 10th, '14, 15:35

The song wouldn't have gotten as big as it is right now without Kendrick and if you deny it you're delusional. The same could be said with Control back then
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby HotDawg » May 10th, '14, 15:43

The only thing I like about this song is kendrick
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby Trimss » May 10th, '14, 15:49

Oh and I'm not hating on Tech's verse because it's dope too, just saying that Kendrick is slowly becoming a household name right now.
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby Trimss » May 10th, '14, 16:49

Hesky wrote:g) Caribou Lou went gold, and this is not Tech N9ne's first single that has sold well


To be fair the OP says Tech N9ne's first successful song on urban radios, not first song that has sold well
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby Mr Change » May 10th, '14, 16:55

Revolutionary wrote:LOL, the hate on Tech is a bit much.

He was most of ya'lls second favorite rapper back when All 6's and 7's dropped. I never liked him like many of you did but the flip-flopping in this forum is unreal.


This guy knows :smoking:


But yeah, no denying that Kendrick helped this song a TON.

For comparison, imagine a underground artist gettin Em on a song back in the day (or now even)
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby fifflaren » May 10th, '14, 17:46

god damn these are the stats of the song RIGHT NOW and it's still doing strong


fragile just took over Eminem-Headlights in the rhythmic charts lol


Rap Airplay
1 1 28 Show Me - Kid Ink Featuring Chris Brown - Tha Alumni Group/88 Classic | RCA
2 2 10 Trophies - Young Money Featuring Drake - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
3 3 16 Part II (On The Run) - Jay Z Featuring Beyonce - Roc-A-Fella | Roc Nation
4 4 10 Move That Doh - Future Featuring Pharrell, Pusha T & Casino - A-1/Freebandz | Epic
5 6 9 Cut Her Off - KCamp Featuring 2 Chainz - Dat Real/FTE/4.27 | Interscope
6 5 11 Who Do You Love? - YG Featuring Drake - Pushaz Ink/CTE | Def Jam
7 9 7 Fancy - Iggy Azalea Featuring Charli XCX - Turn First/Hustle Gang | Def Jam
8 7 28 My Hitta - YG Featuring Jeezy & Rich Homie Quan - Pushaz Ink/CTE | Def Jam
9 8 13 Stoner - Young Thug - Asylum/Atlantic | RRP
10 10 7 Main Chick - Kid Ink Featuring Chris Brown - Tha Alumni Group/88 Classic | RCA
11 12 5 Smoke - 50 Cent Featuring Trey Songz - G Unit | Capitol
12 13 11 Show Da World - Lil' Boosie & Webbie Featuring Kiara - Trill | Atlantic
13 16 4 I Know - Yo Gotti Featuring Rich Homie Quan - Cocaine Muzik | Epic
14 11 38 All Me - Drake Featuring 2 Chainz & Big Sean - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
15 17 4 We Dem Boyz - Wiz Khalifa - Atlantic | RRP
16 19 6 Fragile - Tech N9ne Featuring Kendrick Lamar, MAYDAY! & Kendall Morgan - Strange
17 15 5 Thug Cry - Rick Ross Featuring Lil Wayne - Maybach/Slip-N-Slide | Def Jam
18 18 9 Yayo - Snootie Wild Featuring Yo Gotti - Cocaine Muzik | Epic
19 22 3 She Twerkin - Ca$h Out - Bases Loaded | eOne
20 New 1 They Don't Love U No More - DJ Khaled Featuring Jay Z, Meek Mill, Rick Ross & French Montana - We The Best/Cash Money | Republic
21 23 2 V. 3005 - Childish Gambino - Glassnote
22 25 4 Walk Thru - Rich Homie Quan Featuring Problem - Rich Homiez | Thinkitsagame
23 20 13 Man Of The Year - ScHoolboy Q - Top Dawg | Interscope
24 New 1 I Won - Future Featuring Kanye West - A-1/Freebandz | Epic
25 24 14 Money Baby - KCamp Featuring Kwony Cash - Dat Real/FTE/4.27 | Interscope


France: 135
US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs (Billboard): 38
US Hot Rap Songs (Billboard): 23
US Heatseekers Songs (Billboard): 24
US Rhythmic (Billboard): 14



it's not a huge hit but actually really good for an independent artist and the song will probably get bigger in the next few weeks
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby classthe_king » May 10th, '14, 17:51

bigray wrote:Royce got his first gold album for Hell: The Sequel because of Eminem which is quite clear, Tech is like 42 years old and he's never had any radio success, because of Kendrick being on Fragile is what got Tech the radio success, that's all i meant.....you cant deny that.


You'd be surprised how well Elision can completely deny facts
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby 12characters » May 10th, '14, 18:05

Hesky wrote:Let's just all agree that:
c) I Love Music was a bad song


i don't agree sorry
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby Sobecaspur » May 11th, '14, 23:08

http://rapgenius.com/Tech-n9ne-leave-me-alone-lyrics
LEAVE ME ALONE...was according to KC the first successful radio hit, not Fragile folks, lets get it right.
I personally love everything hes done since his Angel or demon album. As far as the old stuff he wasn't all there yet, a wild one with bunches of Jabber.
As for the mention of Kendrick, he has a ghost writer and I don't believe he write his own stuff, bish :wub: ....
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby fifflaren » May 11th, '14, 23:30

Sobecaspur wrote:http://rapgenius.com/Tech-n9ne-leave-me-alone-lyrics
LEAVE ME ALONE...was according to KC the first successful radio hit, not Fragile folks, lets get it right.
I personally love everything hes done since his Angel or demon album. As far as the old stuff he wasn't all there yet, a wild one with bunches of Jabber.
As for the mention of Kendrick, he has a ghost writer and I don't believe he write his own stuff, bish :wub: ....


Lmao.

1) KC wasn't that successful, fragile is clearly becoming bigger
2) kendrick doesn't have ghost writers. just like everybody, he has improved a lot but kendrick has been using the same writing style since hes 16.

he also received a lot of writing credits for writing verses/melodies/songs for other west coast rappers (Drug Test by Game for example)
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Re: Fragile becomes Tech 9's first succesful song on urban r

Postby DetroitSkills » May 11th, '14, 23:46

Your career ain't shit unless you got some Kendrick in it :coffee:
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