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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby Amadeo » May 11th, '14, 09:10

CrashBand wrote:One of the dumber hip-hop beliefs out there. Big L was not the king of punchlines, lol. They were often pretty shit.

He was one of the "kings" (lol) at rhyming and flow though, especially for his time. So fucking smooth.

This. I think it's just because Big L started doing some of the more clever ones (at the time, lol). People quote "Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butthead" all the time, for example. That would get a moderate reaction from a modern rap battle crowd these days, since the bar's just been raised so much higher now.

I'd say the best at punchlines these days might be Charron, honestly. He's mastered the art.

Oh, and I think Big L was the first one to combine those kinds of punchlines with smooth multis (which a lot of punchline rappers can't even master today), so the punchlines hit way harder than his contemporaries and everyone was blown away by his style at the time.
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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby CrashBand » May 11th, '14, 10:14

Me and dead prez often call Big L a poor man's SSLP-era Eminem. Ignoring the rhyming and flow, one of his best attributes was "jokey/horrorcore" punchlines, i.e. punchlines that don't involve wordplay.

Most of SSLP has examples of Eminem doing these types of punchlines (usually better) as well.

It's kind of annoying how "punchlines" are synonymous with "wordplay" in hip hop circles.

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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby dead prez » May 11th, '14, 10:21

He had some interesting ass shit nearing his death, he practically invented Flying Lotus and FlyLo pretty much picked up the torch after his death. That's not even getting into the type of stuff he was fucking with while kanye was still messing with chipmunk vocal samples, and his influence on Things Fall Apart in his work with Slum Village. Despite me sounding like a Dilla Stan (I'm not one of those Dilla changed my life people, lol) I actually think Rza in his prime was still better and Kanye is just as gud.

Big Pun was also great even if he just sounds like a G rap clone at times, if Capital Punishment was trimmed I'd think much more highly of it.
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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby CrashBand » May 11th, '14, 10:29

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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby geoff » May 11th, '14, 11:07

Big pun. Obviously his last album was trash but just for being capable of releasing something of the standard of capital punishment he deserved to carry on making music.
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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby MistaVijilantee » May 11th, '14, 13:01

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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby cement » May 11th, '14, 13:04

I would save the real eminems life before he turned into a clone
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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby classthe_king » May 11th, '14, 17:19

Big L is so overrated. He has some quotables that people always quote but most of his lyrics are rly average.

Big Pun had already fallen off while he was alive so idk why anyone would want him back just so he could make a bunch of shitty albums like Yeah Baby.
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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby DetroitSkills » May 11th, '14, 17:51

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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby Just Silver » May 11th, '14, 18:56

Biggie

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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby Shpongle » May 12th, '14, 11:27

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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby mdemaz » May 12th, '14, 11:59

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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby StanBase » May 12th, '14, 12:34

Proof tbh
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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby CrashBand » May 13th, '14, 17:43

lol @ proof
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Re: If you could travel back in time and save 1 rappers life

Postby SajN » May 13th, '14, 17:44

CrashBand wrote:lol @ proof

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