Em's worst verse pre '03

[AliJack]

I hope you two can keep this up. Makes for fascinating reading.

really? it's just a bunch of "you dumbass!" insults over & over again from both of us. mine are valid, however, because he is indeed a dumbass.

Sarcasm is so hard to get across on the internet. Maybe I should have done a rather than try and make the look sarcastic which it didn't. Oh well, life goes on.

forreal i got the sarcasm there and i think Amadeo did

[MikeNUFC]

really? it's just a bunch of "you dumbass!" insults over & over again from both of us. mine are valid, however, because he is indeed a dumbass.

Sarcasm is so hard to get across on the internet. Maybe I should have done a rather than try and make the look sarcastic which it didn't. Oh well, life goes on.

how many brothers fell victim to the streets...

Rest in peace young n**** theres a heaven for a G...

[EminemInsider]

lol. let me deconstruct Lose Yourself, easily one of eminem's best verses, in the same vapid way as you:

"No more games, I'ma change what you call rage." games? what games? were the first two verses jocular in tone @ all? was it ever apparent that eminem was playing games before he says this? or is he referring to B. Rabbit having a laugh?

You apparently have difficulty following along.

The second verse was jumping ahead. The third verse is the continuation of the first verse. "No more games" as in "no more playing around, I've got to stop choking on stage, sucking at life, and get serious about doing something about it."

"tear this roof off like two dogs caged." clumsy simile. i raise this fucking roof like a construction worker operating a crane, yo! let's forget that two dogs applying pressure to the roof of a cage so it falls off is not equivalent to tearing it off @ all. he is misusing "tearing." & how fucking unimaginative. that's the only analogy he could think of? why two? why not three? seems like an arbitrary number. i know why, because it rhymes with you. stupid Eminem. forcing again.

Yeah, this line isn't spectacular, but the fact that it's a multi makes it acceptable. It holds the first four bars of that verse together. It's not part of a line-by-line monosyllabic force like so many lines in the second verse of The Way I Am.

"i was playing in the beginning, the mood all changed." he uses "change" again. he couldn't think of anything else? this is pathetic & reminiscent of Encore where he just re-uses rhymes.

Again, part of a series of lines that sets up "booed off stage."

moving on... "these times are so hard, & it's getting even harder, trying to feed & water my seed plus, teeter totter, caught up.." plus teeter totter? that's equivalent to "plus <singular noun>." i get it that his emotional journey is like a seesaw, but it doesn't make any sense, syntactically. "trying to feed & water my seed plus, rollercoaster." i get what he means but still, fucking terrible.

He's using it as a verb--teeter tottering.

"baby mama drama, screaming on & too much, for me to wanna..." this makes zero sense. who is "screaming on"? his baby's mother? "screaming on & too much"? this is forcing rhymes.

Actually, he says "screaming on her," not "screaming on." He's screaming on his "baby momma." Makes perfect sense.

Baby momma drama, screamin on her, (it's) too much for me to wanna stay in one spot.

"this monotony has gotten me to the point i'm like a snail." some more clumsy imagery from em. because a snail's life is monotonous! this is the perfect animalistic representation of a rapper trying to break into show business. Not.

Um, no.

now, moving on to the last part of the verse--

oh wait! who gives a fuck! i just realized i don't give a shit about minor syntactic errors, as long as i get the gist of what he's saying & i keep in mind he never graduated high school so grammatical flaws are excusable! as long as he's creating meaning & moods with sharp rhyming & flows, which he's clearly doing in Lose Yourself! holy fuck, what an idiot i was to care one iota about that!

You're an idiot because you don't understand what makes good lyricism, then have the nerve to open your mouth and call someone who DOES an idiot.

what you do isn't @ all impressive or convincing. you're nothing more than a boring hair-splitter & you zoom in on awkward turns of phrases rather than look @ the entire verse as a whole. Eminem isn't an English major shit-for-brains, he's a RAPPER.

My complaints about "The Way I Am" have nothing to do with grammatical errors. You're just misdirecting.

And of course, we must remember you're the same guy who thinks Love You More "shits on" most of The Eminem Show.

Edit: Lmao @ you justifying "nightMEERS" & "white peerents." so it's ok for eminem to become a fucking new zealander @ the start of a song, but not ok to emphasize the last syllable of "pinky." Durrrrrrrrrrr.

Dialect changes and awkwardly stressing the last syllable of a word are completely different issues. Once again, you're missing the whole point.

Some people in the United States actually pronounce "nightmares" so that it sounds kind of like "nightmeers." It's sort of like people saying "exPEERiment" instead of "ex-pair-iment," as it should be pronounced.

Nobody ever goes, "I hurt my pin---KYYYYY."

Just as nobody ever goes, "I stuck the presents under THE treeeee"..."but I don't see us bein' together ever a-GENNNnnnnnnnn"..."everything always happens for a re-SENNNNNNNnnnnnn."

Quality of lyricism isn't determined by whether or not you like/agree with the subject matter. It's determined by linguistic choices. That's what separates "Hailie's Song" from "Mockingbird"...."Kim" from "Puke."

[Satire]

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[Satire]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebGK2Ez95R0 <-- what about the pathetic, racist waste-of-space in this video? ooh, you said "*****." how edgy.

OH SH*T. EMINEMINSIDER'S EVAN C.?

[EminemInsider]

This is the warped logic that exemplifies how much of a fucking idiot you are, and why you'd probably LIKE albums like Infinite.

Supporting lines are OK if the grand scheme of the song actually goes somewhere.

Many of the songs on Infinite ARE good. Of course, it doesn't have the angry voice that makes you spill vaginal fluid, so you don't like it.

that STILL doesn't make sense, nitwit. it would ONLY make sense if it was "teeter tottering." & even then it's awkward as fuck without any conjunctions or pronouns. "Trying to feed & water my seed plus, <regular verb.>" he switches from a verb "trying" in the present continuous to a regular verb. it's grammatically incorrect. it makes zero sense. you're a failure. Fin.

It makes perfect sense you fucking dumbass. He's using it as an infinitive--TO teeter-totter.

He's teeter-tottering between being a father and a prima-donna.

Are you a simian shit-chucker? Screaming on someone makes no fucking sense. Someone should scream on you & tell you to shut the fuck up. you're embarrassing yourself.

OMG. How fucking dumb are you? Seriously? I know this sounds like a rhetorical question, but it really isn't.

I want to know. Is your IQ below 40? Lower than 30?

Learn Ebonics you fucking idiot. People who speak in Ebonics say they're "screaming on someone" all the time.

Translation: I am not able to refute that.

Translation: You were just baiting me at this point with your idiotic contention that him likening a monotonous life to that of a snail was unacceptable. It's absolutely acceptable...there's nothing wrong with it at all. Nothing more to say other than to remind you once again that you are an idiot of epic proportions, since you probably have forgotten since the last time I told you.

wait, you're an expert on lyricism? really? the same person who wrote this trash thinks they have a clue?

It all started after 8 mile concluded
I was burned out, even the best after a great while will lose it
It can't be disputed, Encore wasn't up to standard
I mean, "My band"? I did that shit in a fuckin accent
Musically, I'd already had every drama covered
And every single day I was "on the radio" like Donna Summer

hey, great writing fuckwit. too bad "accent" doesn't rhyme with "standard" & "summer" doesn't rhyme with "covered." that's kind of an important requirement when it comes to penning rap lyrics: rhyming. fucking imbecile.

1. I only wrote half of that song. I was trading bars with someone else over AIM.

2. "Summer" and "cover" rhyme every bit as much as anything else in rap music.

Seriously, are you high, drunk...all of the above?

Practically NOTHING in rap music technically rhymes you poor, pathetic idiot. Let's look at the first verse of Rock Bottom:

"Circus net" doesn't rhyme with "Percocet" or "nervous wreck" or "deserve respect" or "work a sweat" or "worthless check" or "burst this tech" or "reverse this debt." "Minimum wage" doesn't rhyme with "adrenaline caged" or "venom and rage" or "when I'm engaged." "Last diaper" doesn't rhyme with "ass hyper" or "ask nicer." "Pathfinders" doesn't rhyme with "autograph signers" or "half pinters" "past behind us" doesn't rhyme with "have vaginas," "ass mindless" doesn't rhyme with "grass spineless."

Learn what technical rhymes actually are and then learn how rappers define "rhyming." Then, kill yourself.

nice touch with the Donna Summer line, by the way. thanks for putting the song title in quotes to highlight the "wordplay." this is just as formulaic as any shitty punchline rapper out there today. "I am ____ like <insert celebrity with a piece of art that links with the phrase you just used.>" I'm hot & cold like Katy Perry! hell, this is just as loathsome & hackneyed as the rap cliche "I die hard like Bruce Willis." oh sorry, "I 'die hard' like Bruce Willis." GET IT??? i put it in quotes. do you get it????

Yeah, and Eminem stole the clock and "took the time." Also, this world is his Easter egg, prepare to DYE.

Har har har.

& lmao @ your forced, shitty multis: "8 mile concluded/great while will lose it." you can't rhyme like Eminem. the garbage you write is not even close to the level of "The Way I Am." it's not even close to Encore, eminem's worst album by far. but let's move on with the rap written by a supposed expert on lyricism:

Did I mention that you're an idiot?

Eminem couldn't buy a multi to save his life on Encore.

My friend and I came up with this song in about 20 minutes.

So now I had trouble even rhyming one word
My multis were gone, and my voice was shot and flustered

the only way this could even rhyme is if you emphasized the last syllable of flustered: flusTERED, turning into a monosyllabic rhyme. oops, i think you just did the same thing Eminem did in The Way I Am. oops, i think you're a fucking idiot who has no idea what they're talking about. how can someone with such abysmal writing claim to understand lyricism? if you understood lyricism, surely it would show in your work.

Somebody's getting desperate.

There's absolutely NO reason to emphasize the last syllable of "flustered." The emphasis would be put on "one" in "one word."

i won't even go on. it's too bad to even make fun of. i can't write either, but i'm not claiming to understand lyricism. i'm not a self-important, arrogant loser, you see.

You're most definitely a loser. An incredibly stupid loser, to boot.

hahah, he wants to bring up what i've said in the past. what about what you've said in the past, ape?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebGK2Ez95R0 <-- what about the pathetic, racist waste-of-space in this video? ooh, you said "*****." how edgy.

Sorry to say, but that's not me.

So yeah, I brought up what you said in the past because it's indicative of what an imbecile you really are. It's blatantly obvious to me that you're only into Eminem songs when he has an angry voice...lyrics be damned.

what about the unfunny, shitty Eminem emo parody you did, hmm? when you actually tried to rap like vintage Shady in the third verse, & your multis were deplorable & you sounded like a prepubescent nerd?

this is the person who i'm going to listen to when it comes to "lyricism." this is the person whose opinion on a truly great song "The Way I Am," i value highly.

I have no idea what you're even talking about. Please buy a bottle of sleeping pills and rinse them down with gallons of alcohol, for the good of the human race.

[Satire]

"Because my name is Tiger fucking Woods/He grabbed my thighs and I touched his wood." Dope, son! Straight dope!

Don't worry, that line isn't spectacular, but the fact that it's a multi makes it acceptable.


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[EminemInsider]

You're laughably adding words to make it make sense. i didn't try to do this to some of the grammatically flawed lines in The Way I Am. no matter which way you slice it, "Trying to feed & water my seed plus, teeter totter, caught up between..." is grammatically incorrect. the only way it could possibly make sense is if he's trying to teeter totter, which would be fucking absurd. checkmate again, idiot.

Again, my complaint about The Way I Am had nothing to do with grammatical flaws. Ebonics in and of itself is often grammatically flawed.

wait, wait. so your excuse for that festering pile of shit you call a rap verse is that it was a JOINT effort? ahahahaha. so it took the brainpower of two people to serve up that junk? i shudder to think of the kind of awful shit you come up with when you're by yourself.

We were TRADING LINES back and forth, playing off each other's bars. You're criticizing numerous lines that weren't even mine. The Donna Summer thing was the only thing you mentioned that I even wrote.

And our combined "effort" (I put "effort" in quotes because we didn't put that much time into it...it was a fake track to gauge the reaction of dipshits on this forum) topped anything Eminem put out between 2003-2007. That was really the whole point.

oh wait... this:

Who needs multi-syllabic rhymes, this was meaningful music!
I made you sob into kleenex with mucus, rhyme scheming is stupid
And who cares if I'm rapping with sick vocal delivery?
If it's about serial killing and rape, it's totally shit, you see?
I was better high and on pills than rhyming with skills
Nearly comatose from an overdose, 2 hours from dying and STILL

this is AWFUL. AWFUL. "totally shit, you see" & "vocal delivery" is the most awkward multi i've ever laid eyes on. you even finish one line with an incomplete sentence, "still..." & continuing it in the next line. you just violated all your criteria for "good lyricism." you fucking suck. but don't worry, this mediocre rap could be salvaged by good delivery, because delivery (unlike what your dumb ass thinks) matters.

Again, I'm not the one who wrote that. At least that verse contains awkward MULTIS...as opposed to awkward one syllable forces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9W7e2zW-0&feature=channel#t=2m59s but damnit. the delivery is embarrassing. why haven't you offed yourself yet? why are you putting this in the public domain? & don't even try to deny this is you. i mocked it in the thread Evan C posted it in, & you very bizarrely arrived in the thread defending it ("I'm pretty sure the voice was intentional"). whoa! not to mention your incredibly amateurish writing echoes the incredibly amateurish writing of "Emergence" or whatever you called it.

LOL...yeah, because Evan C and I never communicate with each other or anything. OOPS!

No, you're not mocking Eminem, you're actually TRYING to write rap like him. you posted it as a fake eminem song, trying to make it authentic. you tried to write a good rap, & failed miserably. just like your entire post history here: a miscarriage.

We tried to make a much better song than what he'd BEEN putting out, which we easily achieved (a steaming pile of dog shit is better than Encore).

What one must remember when reading your posts is that you don't know the first thing about lyricism. You think "Love You More" shits on most of TES and that The Way I Am shits on 95% of all of Eminem's music. You don't even grasp the concept of "rhyming" in rap music.

says the guy who posts videos of unfunny Eminem parodies & racist videos calling people "N*gger". you sound like an incredibly well-adjusted individual, Mr. 25-year-old-racist-faggot.

Oh the irony. Racist faggot...

By the way, the fact that you don't even GET that that dude's racist video is a JOKE just lends further evidence to the pile that you are a complete idiot.

it is you. just like the account "EmceeNolan" belongs to you. just like you did the awful Tiger Woods song. stop denying it - you're embarrassing yourself.

Why would I deny it? It's the internet...if I wrote it, I'd admit to writing it. Not like I'd care if a dolt such as yourself bashed it. If you say something, the opposite is usually true.

of course you @ least KNOW what i am talking about. you were right there in the thread, defending the parody. & i know you made it. i know you suck.

I thought the parody was pretty funny, personally.

It's also funny how one of your knocks on it was the "pre-pubescent" voice in the 3rd verse...when Eminem used that same kind of voice for SSLP (and of course, the totally waaaaack Infinite ) ...oh wait, an idea just hit me! Maybe, just maybe, your main criteria for whether you like something or not is if the angry, masculine voice makes your clitoris tingle...not the lyrics themselves.

[EminemInsider]

Don't worry, that line isn't spectacular, but the fact that it's a multi makes it acceptable.


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lmao. take a look @ one of EmceeNolan's YouTube comments (the same racist loser as EI, the same bad rapper):

"Malnutrition" hip hopers? Ridiculous word choice...that doesn't even make sense.
Don't know how to play instruments?

Bwahahahahahaha. So I guess singing isn't music, either, since most singers don't play instruments.

You really can't make stuff like this up. You're both odd and a complete imbecile...a frightening combination. A cesspool of internet idiocy.

hmm. does this sound like anybody in this thread? hmm:

The time you spent writing your little analytical essay there... you're never getting it back. It's gone. Dead. That makes me sad to know that you don't appreciate life enough to savor the moments it gives you.

It's music.

I like it.

Simple.

You're a worthless cesspool of internet idiocy. Seriously....oh no, I wasted 5-10 minutes typing that up....when instead I could've been listening to Straight From the Lab in that time!!!

hmm. lmao. it's clear as fucking day that they're the same person.

not that i needed further proof that he's a fucking racist, stupid, ignorant, pathetic loser.

Well, one of us must have heavily influenced the other. Considering we converse regularly, not all that surprising.

For the record, I said "cesspool of internet idiocy" before he ever did.

[MikeNUFC]

Wait..... when the hell did this turn from The Way I Am to a random track by a TRShady member?

[Satire]

[Stanley C.]

"No more games, I'ma change what you call rage." games? what games? were the first two verses jocular in tone @ all? was it ever apparent that eminem was playing games before he says this? or is he referring to B. Rabbit having a laugh?

"tear this roof off like two dogs caged." clumsy simile. i raise this fucking roof like a construction worker operating a crane, yo! let's forget that two dogs applying pressure to the roof of a cage so it falls off is not equivalent to tearing it off @ all. he is misusing "tearing." & how fucking unimaginative. that's the only analogy he could think of? why two? why not three? seems like an arbitrary number. i know why, because it rhymes with you. stupid Eminem. forcing again.

"i was playing in the beginning, the mood all changed." he uses "change" again. he couldn't think of anything else? this is pathetic & reminiscent of Encore where he just re-uses rhymes.

moving on... "these times are so hard, & it's getting even harder, trying to feed & water my seed plus, teeter totter, caught up.." plus teeter totter? that's equivalent to "plus <singular noun>." i get it that his emotional journey is like a seesaw, but it doesn't make any sense, syntactically. "trying to feed & water my seed plus, rollercoaster." i get what he means but still, fucking terrible.

"baby mama drama, screaming on & too much, for me to wanna..." this makes zero sense. who is "screaming on"? his baby's mother? "screaming on & too much"? this is forcing rhymes.

"this monotony has gotten me to the point i'm like a snail." some more clumsy imagery from em. because a snail's life is monotonous! this is the perfect animalistic representation of a rapper trying to break into show business. Not.

now, moving on to the last part of the verse--

oh wait! who gives a fuck! i just realized i don't give a shit about minor syntactic errors, as long as i get the gist of what he's saying & i keep in mind he never graduated high school so grammatical flaws are excusable! as long as he's creating meaning & moods with sharp rhyming & flows, which he's clearly doing in Lose Yourself! holy fuck, what an idiot i was to care one iota about that!

what you do isn't @ all impressive or convincing. you're nothing more than a boring hair-splitter & you zoom in on awkward turns of phrases rather than look @ the entire verse as a whole. Eminem isn't an English major shit-for-brains, he's a RAPPER.

Edit: Lmao @ you justifying "nightMEERS" & "white peerents." so it's ok for eminem to become a fucking new zealander @ the start of a song, but not ok to emphasize the last syllable of "pinky." Durrrrrrrrrrr.

I don't think someone has made such a retarded post in TRshady history. Explains why you think Way I Am Verse 2 was so great. BTW,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9W7e2z ... el#t=2m59s

is still better than anything your twisted imbecile mind of stupidity could come up with.

[AliJack]

Luckily for us, that popcorn will never run out.

word. *munch

[bennettboy]

I personally didnt like Bad influence or Any man

[UofLCard]

Bump since this is a good thread topic.

Off the top of my head, I'll have to say the second verse of My Dad's Gone Crazy is his worst (mainstream) verse of that time.