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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby Peace_Maker » Aug 5th, '10, 08:52

Flow reminds me of

"I'm not Mr.N'Sync, I'm not what your friends think"

I missed the meaning completely, it's like 4 in the morning right now, not even gonna try. You're a needle in a haystack for not using heavy rhymes. I respect that. Great transition rhymes and inners though. Good content. Great expression. I really feel like you used the rhymes as a tool to say what you wanted to say, most people let rhymes lead the way. Keep it up man. I liked it.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby Yah-hah » Aug 5th, '10, 09:22

Yeah I lik howyou dont go into tryin to impress with crazy multis just stick with the deep meaning stuff :y: Good story alot of people can relate to. Good meotion and easy to flow with, at least for me :y: Be cool if yu could give me some feed on m 2 latest. Would like to hear wat a vet thinks :y: Props tho man keep at it
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby mcZu » Aug 6th, '10, 00:10

It's pretty good. I like the content and I like your usage of words, it's perfect for these kind of pieces. Only thing I didn't like is your rhyme scheme in this one. Too simple. But you can't have it all, I suppose. Keep it up.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby mcZu » Aug 6th, '10, 01:53

SiiNiDE wrote:
mcZu wrote:It's pretty good. I like the content and I like your usage of words, it's perfect for these kind of pieces. Only thing I didn't like is your rhyme scheme in this one. Too simple. But you can't have it all, I suppose. Keep it up.


Thanks. But are you sure you mean the rhyme scheme? Cos the scheme changed like 6 times through out this piece, lol.

Yes, I was refering to the rhyme scheme. I didn't like the fact that it was lacking in multies a bit. Doesn't mean that the piece is bad... Just saying.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby mcZu » Aug 6th, '10, 02:11

SiiNiDE wrote:
ohhhh. You're one of those people who is still under the false pretense that a rhyme scheme is how many multie syllable rhymes you cram into a song. Contrary to popular belief, a song or poem's rhyme scheme has to do with how and where the rhyming words are placed and not the amount of multie syllable rhymes said piece contains. On a side note: Good multies should not stand out but should flow well with the song. Maybe you should reread. This piece is littered with multies, but I only use them when needed.

Again, thanks for the feed though.


A rhyme scheme is the coherent of how you section the rhymes and of the usage of the rhymes. Now, a multie belongs to the usage of a rhyme. A rhyme scheme is the pattern of rhyme between lines. Multies are rhymes, and are in patterns. I never defined a rhyme scheme as the amount of multie syllable rhymes in a song. And it doesn't matter if I reread it, 'cause I can't figure out your flow unless I have the beat you wrote it to. Saying you only use multies when needed is pretty out of place in this conversation, since multies can make the lyrics flow better, smoother and make it sound more attractive. Ending every line with a multie will only complement the flow. Now, it might not be your style, but surely, it adds to the flow.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby mcZu » Aug 6th, '10, 02:48

SiiNiDE wrote:
This statement could not have been more wrong. Your definition of a rhyme scheme is correct BUT you being presmably blinded by ignorance failed to see what I said. Yes, multies are parts of rhymes and they effect the outcome of a rhyme scheme, but they do not wholey make up the scheme.

Also, you are wrong to think saying "I only use multies when needed" is out of place. See, this is an amateur thought process. You are under the presumption that "Multies make everything sound better". In some cases this is correct; Multies can add to the aesthetics of a piece; but in most cases the over-use of multies actually negatively effects a piece. This is where amateur writers differ from veteran writers. I, myself, hate seeing or hearing songs littered with nonsensical, overly exaggerated, forced multies. So ending every line with a multie does not always "compliment the flow". Infact, a lot of times it hinders the flow. This is why multies are best used as transitions and inners. They sound better if used this way and they compliment the flow a lot more. Thus, that is how they are used most of the time in my writings.


First of all, I never said they wholly make up the scheme. I said I didn't like your rhyme scheme because it was lacking in multies. This means that I didn't like your rhyme scheme because a part of the rhyme scheme wasn't something that I liked. So my statement isn't wrong, and I'm far from being ignorant.

And you're wrong in thinking that only amateurs use multies in every line. If you see your self as a veteran writer, OK, good for you. That doesn't mean that everybody else who has a slightly different opinion than you is an amateur writer. It depends on the preference of the writer, but in most cases multies do make the flow sound better. Using a lot of multies doesn't mean that they are forced. But please, don't call people who use a lot of multies amateurs because you think that the way you use them sounds better. Music is about preference, we can agree if something sounds good, but if you prefer some sounds over others, well, that's taste. Same case when it comes down to writing. If you prefer your usage of multies, so be it.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby classthe_king » Aug 6th, '10, 03:20

SiiNiDE wrote:You're totally missing the point. Go look at any Atmosphere song and you'll realize what I'm saying. Forcing every line to have a multie syllable rhyme, just for the sake of having it, is amateur. There's no way around it. It's a novice mistake made by people who haven't written enough music to realize that it is, infact, hindering their music. Don't get me wrong, there are a FEW artists that can pull it off. Apathy, for example. But then again, even Eminem doesn't write with multies in every line.


Dude just fucking accept that you aren't the god of music and other people can think what they want. You started writing in '08 and you think you're some veteran rapper? GTFO. Everyone can think what they want about music, I love multis and think that they do MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER. If you aren't using multis then your just lazy, fuck outta here with your "it hinders the flow". I listen to Atmosphere and Slug makes good music but Diabolic > Atmosphere any day of the week.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby Peace_Maker » Aug 6th, '10, 05:40

The only thing I disagree with is that you seem to have a close minded view on evolving. Thinking that deep and meaningful stuff is the end result of evolution. Like where Slug is now is where another artist should end up. Look at Eminem, towards the end of his career and started going heavy into punchlines. Cassidy started out in this manner. Em went from light hearted and fun, to emotional, and then to more a braggadocios punchline rapper. I think evolving just means being versatile and covering your bases. Like by the end of your career you should be able to comfortably do any kind of song. That's why people like Jay-Z, Nas, and Eminem are so worshiped.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby Yah-hah » Aug 6th, '10, 05:49

Yeah man Different artist have different styles. Doesnty mean they are any more or less in skill. I use multis more than most people just because thats my style. But this doesnty mean I am some rookie or a kid who just picked up a pencil and started writing yesterday. I've developed my style the way I hear it in my head. Even my emotional songs have multis just because thats how I hear it in my natural rhythm. And this doesnt take away from the emotions of my work. I dont force a word to fit a particular structure I write wat flows in my head. I write great nonsense multis peices and I write great emotional and deep peices. You can write great nonsense an great deep just depends on your actual stle of writing. I use multis to express my thoughts, this doesnt cause any more or less meaning to be there :y: :whistle: Still havent feed mine lol
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby Yah-hah » Aug 6th, '10, 06:00

I wasnt sayin you were against em, idk if you were talkin to me but either way. Its just a thing of different outlooks. All I can do is respect you view on it and use it to become a more versitile writer :y:
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby mcZu » Aug 6th, '10, 14:29

SiiNiDE wrote:
Peace_Maker wrote:The only thing I disagree with is that you seem to have a close minded view on evolving. Thinking that deep and meaningful stuff is the end result of evolution. Like where Slug is now is where another artist should end up. Look at Eminem, towards the end of his career and started going heavy into punchlines. Cassidy started out in this manner. Em went from light hearted and fun, to emotional, and then to more a braggadocios punchline rapper. I think evolving just means being versatile and covering your bases. Like by the end of your career you should be able to comfortably do any kind of song. That's why people like Jay-Z, Nas, and Eminem are so worshiped.


Eminem isn't a very good example of that. He was a battler/punchline rapper before he got famous. (Infinite is filled with punchlines). It may have come off like I was saying that's the be-all-end-all, but that wasn't my intention. My intention is to show the growth and versatility. Basically what you just said. I used slug as an example because of how his music has changed over the years. There are plenty of artists that could be used as an example. (Diabolic is not one of them, lol.) I'm just trying to show these fools that forcing multies into a song does not make it better. Especially when you could have used that space to say something with more meaning.

If you were refering to me, try and reread what I wrote. I never said forcing multies makes anything better, if you can use a multie while filling that space up with something that is meaningful, then you can call yourself a good writer. If you just refuse to use a multie because you are too afraid that it'll sound forced, then you're just being lazy. Because trying to use multies that don't sound forced and yet keeping the meaning in that line is what a lot of writers try to achieve, 'cause that is part of the epitome of expressing yourself. So please, don't call me a fool. I mean, if you can't discuss something without using insults then don't discuss anything at all. That kind of speech only derogates the adultness of a conversation.

That is, if you were refering to me.
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby BILI » Aug 6th, '10, 20:00

Lol @ this niqqa :facepalm
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby BILI » Aug 6th, '10, 20:07

SiiNiDE wrote:
BILI wrote:Lol @ this niqqa :facepalm


LOL@ this novice.

:laughing: :laughing:
How lame is that :facepalm

My comment hurt your lil feelings?Learn to write :flower:
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby BILI » Aug 6th, '10, 20:13

SiiNiDE wrote:Are you serious, kid? You're a novice. I checked your last drop. You're the LAST person that should be handing out any advice or sarcastic criticism. You're not even on par with who I was in 2006.

And if you're trolling, you're terrible at it. But if you're serious that just adds to the hilarity and utter irony of you talking shit to someone 10x better than you've ever imagined yourself being.

Your drop is bad,I`m actually laughing out loud here@ you thinking that you`re dope :facepalm
I cant even find a lil multi in your drop


PS:I`m also older then you,so its kinda stupid to call me a kid
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Re: "Walk Away"

Postby BILI » Aug 6th, '10, 20:30

^^lmfao

PS:Your recordings suck man,your written stuff can pass,emotions and stuff,it can pass.But damn you voice is even more annoying then you :facepalm
At least I wouldnt sound like emo Lil Wayne

And lol at you pointing stuff like Kept me in/let me in.
Thats simple shit
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