Official Advice thread

[BILI]

When's the last time you've posted a verse you douche

Few days ago,that collab 2011

[classthe_king]

All I can record with now is a cellphone, a media player and prpbably the world's lowest quality microphone .. so let's just say a Cellphone, why buy an expensive mic when I don't even know if i'll continue doing this ?

As for apps ... I got Audacity and Audition and Fruity Loops .. Feel free to recommend any other apps, thanks to Maybe's download thread almost everything's available.

Yeah, with a cellphone it's going to be very hard to get quality. If you could go to a local music store and get a 25$-50$ mic that would help your quality a lot. If you ever record something pm it to me and I'll mix it the best I can and then tell you what I did cause I don't know if the way I mix with a mic would be the same for you.

Hip-hop’s not dead, its just raped and tortured
By these lame fucks, how can we trust apes and moochers?
They know they’ll ruin it, but these sissies dont stop
But we, we cant fuck up, well, unless your sis is on top
Fake gangsters that never killed anything but boredom
Game full of bitches like a whoredom, but more dumb
It screams for our help, we cant leave it like this
I’m just warming up, but believe it I’m pissed

Well first of all, tortured doesn't rhyme with moocher. The o sounds aren't the same. Second, you have a good grasp of multis and you know what good rap is you just need to be more creative with your concepts and the things you say. Just think to yourself, would I think this was dope if I heard x rapper say it?

[classthe_king]

Aight then, I'll go buy me a mic tomorrow, then i'll see what I can do. Class i'll send you whatever I record before I put it anywhere, you da expert.

Appreciate the help, fellas.

http://www.forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&p=1660066#p1660066

This is an excellent tutoriol from a credible source that I approve of, so if you want to try and mix, use this. However, mixing isn't the same for everyone's vocals. You have to play around with it and find what suits you best.

[Maybe]

If you want to record, then you definitely need a microphone with at least normal/good quality. It doesn't have to be expensive, there are mics out there that has an okay quality and are cheap, which works for beginners.

1. Mixing
2. Environment to record in
3. Mic

As long as you know how to properly mix and you record in an area with as little as possible reverb you'll be fine. I've had the same USB mic for 2 years now my quality has improved from simply horrible to pretty decent because I fixed the first two things on that list. PM me once you get your shit in gear and I'll show you a 2 minute way to get acceptable quality out of mixing.

Not completely true. It wholly depends on what you consider "decent" quality. On this website there aren't many members with decent quality, so it's hard to judge, but I'll say Class has "decent" quality (as well as Chambers). Not many others would be considered decent to me. I suppose Steve Spag has the closest thing to good quality.

It should be:

1: Mixing
2: Mastering (Eq's and processing)
3: Microphone
4: Processor/mixer/preamp
5: Enviorment

It's easier to ground your equipment and soundproof a small section of an echo/reverb infested room than it is to pass good mixing for quality recordings.

[Steve Spag]

I suppose Steve Spag has the closest thing to good quality.

Thanks broheim, did you check my new CD yet?

[VenomBlackViper]

So is this like Ask Class The King 2.0?

[classthe_king]

I would also appreciate it if you showed me how to set up for a punchline.

Anything specific I didn't cover in my first post?

[Yah-hah]

I dont really know how to do multis, can you show me oh great king

[Vettori]

All I can record with now is a cellphone, a media player and prpbably the world's lowest quality microphone .. so let's just say a Cellphone, why buy an expensive mic when I don't even know if i'll continue doing this ?

As for apps ... I got Audacity and Audition and Fruity Loops .. Feel free to recommend any other apps, thanks to Maybe's download thread almost everything's available.

Just sayin, I have a mic that cost me 60 dollars, and a mixer that cost me 60 dollars.
If you have a desktop computer then your ready to go. Learn to mix..Thats the challenge when you learn, it becomes so easy you'll do it with your eyes closed

You need a condensor mic , not USB. and an external mixer Behringer is a reliable brand.
Mic plugs into mixerm, Mixer Plugs directly into the computer where the usb mic would have gone.

Presto a couple youtube videos later
Click my link to see my quality..,..Very cheap equipment. (not the myspace, thats old)

[classthe_king]

I would also appreciate it if you showed me how to set up for a punchline.

Anything specific I didn't cover in my first post?

I meant as in I have a one-line punchline that I can't really extend, how can I come up with an appropriate set up line ?

As in :

_________________ (Dunno what to write here)
I rape AIDS and destroy it's immune system

Well, if you can get good then you can find a way to tie in the set up line to the punchline. Like...

I'm not crippled by diesease I fight back while you sicken
I'll rape AIDS and destroy it's immune system
(Bad example)

But if you can't then just throw in random multis so that the multi of the punchline will hit harder like

I got that true spittin, leave ya crew missin
Rape AIDS and destroy it's immune system
(Also a bad example)

[Scrubz]

oh master class please PLEASE HELP ME!!! nah but on the real good thread, glad to see you helpin people out.

[RainMan44]

Pretty cool of you to do this


Just answer these questions, please.

1. Have you ever had that feeling "Ok, I've written on every topic that I know of. There is nothing left for me to write about?" How do you get out of that feeling? I mean... How many topics can rap possibly have to write about? Where you're from, love, bragging, etc. Please help me out with this, I'm stuck.

2. How to make the chorus sound more like singing? You know how (for example) in The Real Slim Shady, or Without Me, Em goes from rapping, to a kind of more singing-melody type chorus. How should I come up with shit like that?

Overall, I just can't think of anything. I sit sometimes with a pen in my hand, nothing coming out.

[classthe_king]

1. Have you ever had that feeling "Ok, I've written on every topic that I know of. There is nothing left for me to write about?" How do you get out of that feeling? I mean... How many topics can rap possibly have to write about? Where you're from, love, bragging, etc. Please help me out with this, I'm stuck.

This is exactly what I felt a couple monthes ago. This is when you have to move away from talking about your life and start trying to be creative. Do some story telling from a different perspective other than your own. Rap has an infinite amount of topics. This might help you too

Hmmm, I can see the negative effect happiness might have on music. Well, do what I do... I imagine the worst possible life from the perspective of someone else. I usually write about what I see around me, and since I've lived in the ghettos of New Jersey it's pretty easy haha.

Haha that's a good idea. I'm trying to get into more story telling/concept songs like I did for my first song in the comp. I'm not even done with that song though, I write really slow.

He was a masochist...
the saddest kid deemed another bastard that the past forgets...
His name? not that it matters...
but the pattern on the back of his jacket was reading Class the king...
(some king, huh...) sleeping on the park bench....
digging through the garbage, searching for the parts that,
fit in his robotics, body knocked around the block a lot,
and lot's of bottom dollar robbers got him at his parking spot...

I don't know. Random, but see... I look at your situation (well, one I invented) and write.

2. How to make the chorus sound more like singing? You know how (for example) in The Real Slim Shady, or Without Me, Em goes from rapping, to a kind of more singing-melody type chorus. How should I come up with shit like that?

Well that doesn't really have anything to do with writing. You just rap it with more of a melody than you do the verses and then the mixer makes it sounds more like singing

Overall, I just can't think of anything. I sit sometimes with a pen in my hand, nothing coming out.

If that happens just get up and go do something else. Inspiration comes in the strangest places and if you try and force something you'll just end up hating it.

[RainMan44]

1. Have you ever had that feeling "Ok, I've written on every topic that I know of. There is nothing left for me to write about?" How do you get out of that feeling? I mean... How many topics can rap possibly have to write about? Where you're from, love, bragging, etc. Please help me out with this, I'm stuck.

This is exactly what I felt a couple monthes ago. This is when you have to move away from talking about your life and start trying to be creative. Do some story telling from a different perspective other than your own. Rap has an infinite amount of topics. This might help you too

Hmmm, I can see the negative effect happiness might have on music. Well, do what I do... I imagine the worst possible life from the perspective of someone else. I usually write about what I see around me, and since I've lived in the ghettos of New Jersey it's pretty easy haha.

Haha that's a good idea. I'm trying to get into more story telling/concept songs like I did for my first song in the comp. I'm not even done with that song though, I write really slow.

He was a masochist...
the saddest kid deemed another bastard that the past forgets...
His name? not that it matters...
but the pattern on the back of his jacket was reading Class the king...
(some king, huh...) sleeping on the park bench....
digging through the garbage, searching for the parts that,
fit in his robotics, body knocked around the block a lot,
and lot's of bottom dollar robbers got him at his parking spot...

I don't know. Random, but see... I look at your situation (well, one I invented) and write.

2. How to make the chorus sound more like singing? You know how (for example) in The Real Slim Shady, or Without Me, Em goes from rapping, to a kind of more singing-melody type chorus. How should I come up with shit like that?

Well that doesn't really have anything to do with writing. You just rap it with more of a melody than you do the verses and then the mixer makes it sounds more like singing

Overall, I just can't think of anything. I sit sometimes with a pen in my hand, nothing coming out.

If that happens just get up and go do something else. Inspiration comes in the strangest places and if you try and force something you'll just end up hating it.

Thanks a lot for the help, man. I'll be sure to do some of these things.

[classthe_king]

Bump for all these new cats who need to learn a thing or two