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Postby yoshi » May 28th, '06, 20:20

At the moment I'm "enjoyin" 'Crime and Punishment' [ :roll: ] and it's said there that commiting a crime can be justified in certain cases..

Basically it's about the fact that you can divide people in two groups: people who are 'special' in some way and their crime is justified and 'ordinary' people, who should just shut the fuck up and do not commit crimes.

People from the first group - 'special' ones are for example people like Napoleon or any other 'great' unit. Actually, you cannot say they commited crimes directly, cause they didn't. But it was the only way to achieve what they have achieved..

I think it's kinda fucked up, cause now we're like "omg, he was great!!", but we forgot about the fact that their greatness is in 90% connected with wars and killing innocent people.. But I got used to the fact the world ain't normal.. Hope you got my point lol ^^
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Postby snoop11978 » May 29th, '06, 06:01

I dont think that any cxrime can be justified. Especially mass killing of ppl. It is beside the point what they achieve to what crime they commited even though sometimes its related. Eg death of 100 000s to build great wall of china. Even though it was a wonder of the world and the only thing ppl can see from the moon to earth it still cant be justified for the death of so many to build it.
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Postby yoshi » May 29th, '06, 15:03

^ Basically it's what I think, cuz mass killing of people is just sick.. And no one did judge Napoleon or whoever else for what they have done.. Now we say they were great because they achieved a lot, but honestly, in my opinion, it ain't true - they wouldn't have achieved it without death of millions.. :confusion:
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Postby 4D » May 29th, '06, 15:33

It`s justified in some cases. Have you ever seen a movie called "A Time To Kill" With Samuel L Jackson and MAtthew Mc Connaghey.

Jackson`s little girl is gang raped by some white kids in a racist american town. His character Kills them before it goes to trial, knowing they`ll never be convicted. THAT, is justice!!
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Postby AspirinE » May 29th, '06, 15:39

I dont expect people to always be judged fairly but wat amazes me most is how much jail time is given for petite crimes like elligal piracy.


I heard that "pirates" can get up to 10 years in prison, wich is almost the same as child rapists.


The system is definately not fair, coorporations are to often put in high priority..
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Postby 4D » May 29th, '06, 15:41

I think if you fuck with children or rape a girl, automatic castration and back on the street. The threat is removed!! :8)
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Postby AspirinE » May 29th, '06, 15:49

FORDIE wrote:I think if you fuck with children or rape a girl, automatic castration and back on the street. The threat is removed!! :8)


Well i heard what they do to rapists in prison, so i believe its more interesting to let them endure the long stay in the jailcell.
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Postby 4D » May 29th, '06, 15:59

Actually, most rapists are put in with rapists, so, the prison stay is nothing horrific.

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Postby yoshi » May 29th, '06, 18:27

AspirinE wrote:Well i heard what they do to rapists in prison, so i believe its more interesting to let them endure the long stay in the jailcell.


Never been to jail, but i've heard that if you're a child rapist, pedo or you commited a crime connected with harming a child, you've fucked up life there..

But basically I agree with Fordie, cuz castration would be nice idea, although it wouldn't let the kid forget about it..


Lmao, my teacher once said "Yeah.. If I had a chance, I would castrate those fuckers on my own.. Just give me the power.. I'm gonna bring them to the city centre, tether them and then.. Then I'm gonna rip them part by part.." - we were like 'yeah!! :D' - I don't like him, but I would support him then.. :8)
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Postby AspirinE » May 29th, '06, 18:48

yoshi wrote:
AspirinE wrote:Well i heard what they do to rapists in prison, so i believe its more interesting to let them endure the long stay in the jailcell.


Never been to jail, but i've heard that if you're a child rapist, pedo or you commited a crime connected with harming a child, you've fucked up life there..

But basically I agree with Fordie, cuz castration would be nice idea, although it wouldn't let the kid forget about it..


Lmao, my teacher once said "Yeah.. If I had a chance, I would castrate those fuckers on my own.. Just give me the power.. I'm gonna bring them to the city centre, tether them and then.. Then I'm gonna rip them part by part.." - we were like 'yeah!! :D' - I don't like him, but I would support him then.. :8)


This kind of sick justice although its good in my opinion only gives countries bad names and spurs civil hatred towards the goverment. I belive that jails are jails i highly doubt any one is sent there devided into murderers and thieves they all share the same rooms, so they prolly have it hard enough.
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Postby yoshi » May 29th, '06, 18:53

They ain't divided. And even if they are, they still are all together in the cantine or on the backyard.. So they can always kick your ass.. :p
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Postby AspirinE » May 29th, '06, 18:56

yoshi wrote:They ain't divided. And even if they are, they still are all together in the cantine or on the backyard.. So they can always kick your ass.. :p



Prisons are decent punishment no doubt, but there are people that commit minor crime, and those people might die or get raped there, its kind of unfair if so to speak.


The modern society doesnt even discourage crime, only tries to get more people into jail. >_>
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Postby yoshi » May 29th, '06, 19:03

^ It kinda sucks, cuz when you have stolen a car it's not that serious as if you had raped 10yrs old girl. So although being a thief is a bad thing, I still think they shouldn't be put all together.. There should be special prisons for people who commitet let's say umm.. less serious crime like burglary, shoplifting or bribery - they usually get like few months.. But when you're a convict with life sentence for rape or murder.. Such person should be isolated I think.. :confusion:
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Postby MuNxMuN » May 29th, '06, 23:33

~Clarky~ wrote::-k

Crime is bad


ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!? AND I THOUGHT CRIME WAS A GOOD THING....YOU'RE A GENIUS CLARKY!!!!!!! =D>



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Postby axgt_marc » May 29th, '06, 23:47

But what about people who are wrongly convicted?

I would hate too go down for someone else's crime :unsure:
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