You can't come back from "The Warning"

[Francesco]

Just heard it again.. Wow. It's really on-par with his greatest disses.

I agree with that too... it's a great diss song overall & it definitely doesn't matter who he disses on it.

[momentsgolden]

Well, here in southern Africa, we call them coloured. Makes much more sense

[EminemBase]

Well he's talking about 50/50 people. For example, Obama is half white half black, so he's considered black. Same with Mariah.

But why :/ how is that not racist?

Creating an auto bias / description of race...

"If two of you with the same qualifications go for it, but one is black... black man gets it" is themz the rules lmao? People need to stop focusing on race all together - right now, people are still retarded; black people think they have a right to claim pain for or be connected to things which happened to some people who also happened to be black, hundreds of years ago.

Their ancestors? Mine too. They didn't know them and are far removed. Done.

And white people thinking they can't discuss or are responsible for anything or like we're all tied to our race... like, if people are peope then it's not 'white people did x' it's "some bad people did x to some innocent people"... saying he'a black if it's equal is retarded.

[Snakebeast]

Well he's talking about 50/50 people. For example, Obama is half white half black, so he's considered black. Same with Mariah.

But why :/ how is that not racist?

Creating an auto bias / description of race...

"If two of you with the same qualifications go for it, but one is black... black man gets it" is themz the rules lmao? People need to stop focusing on race all together - right now, people are still retarded; black people think they have a right to claim pain for or be connected to things which happened to some people who also happened to be black, hundreds of years ago.

Their ancestors? Mine too. They didn't know them and are far removed. Done.

And white people thinking they can't discuss or are responsible for anything or like we're all tied to our race... like, if people are peope then it's not 'white people did x' it's "some bad people did x to some innocent people"... saying he'a black if it's equal is retarded.

#EmBase4President

[CrashBand]

black people think they have a right to claim pain for or be connected to things which happened to some people who also happened to be black, hundreds of years ago.

Gross generalisation and misunderstanding of the issue.

Lol @ being ironically racist in your rant.

[Willy]

@Crashband what is the issue? You don't think it's okay for all people to be able to say nigger?

[CrashBand]

I don't think anyone has anymore right to use it than anyone else, but that wasn't the issue.

[Willy]

Shit lol, got threads confused. I need more sleep.

[EminemBase]

black people think they have a right to claim pain for or be connected to things which happened to some people who also happened to be black, hundreds of years ago.

Gross generalisation and misunderstanding of the issue.

Lol @ being ironically racist in your rant.

What am I misunderstanding exactly ; the raping of a people's history (African-Americans), exploitation of a race, profoundly heinous degrading of generations upon generations based on irrational racist propaganda... which bit did I get wrong exactly?

- Which peoples haven't been raped and exploited throughout history?
- Thee most horrific damnation to 'a people' is the Holocaust (which was less than 100 years ago!) yet I rarely ever hear a Jewish-American person even refer to it... it only seems to be African-Americans who I ever hear continuously refer to slavery and try and place the issue in modern contexts. Constantly. Chris Rock did not go through slavery and neither did Dave Chapelle; they have had no major hardship thrust upon them and don't have an eternal connection to the ancestors who happen to be slightly closer, genetically and historically to them than any of the rest of us... relatively speaking; all human beings are related, I understand that racism continued in America and that it didn't exactly just STOP when slavery was abolished, WHICH was not all that long ago...

However...

Just because you happen to be of the same race as the ancestors who went through slavery does not give you a special connection to them. Generations upon generations have passed; modern African-Americans... are African-AMERICANS; to be unable to see the PEOPLE who went through slavery as separate people and see all black people as a never ending chain of connected souls is actually what's racist, because it's placing a preferential mindset due to race. ALL humans are related, I understand that the only reason black people are in America is due to slavery, but there's many races of people all around the world that are only in X spot due to war or invasion etc. etc.

Most humans, all over, ever, throughout history have been fucked over; it's history, it's different people, you don't have a special right to claim hardship because you happen to be of the same race of a closer origin. It's tiresome; it's 2013, and it's insulting to the actual people who went through slavery for complete fucktards like Chapelle and morons like Spike Lee to think they have some 'right' to speak on the behalf of those people, because they happen to be of a closer family lineage lmfao. How insulting, and how stupidly naive that everybody else accepts this nonsense.

There's no special 'connection of race'... what I mean is... just because an American of today happens to be white, and another black... there is no... 'connection' of that white person to the ancestors of BOTH of these Americans who happened to mistreat/exploit the other. THIS is racism, as it's a failure to view humans as disconnected individuals; it's seeing people of races as eternally connected and beinb unable to separate the lineage. So no, what's ironic is you / other not being able to separate people of races, thinking black Americans have a special right to claim / speak upon the hardship of complete fucking strangers and that white Americans have some kind of negative connotations/connections or any LESS right... THIS is seeing people by their race.

And what part of my post is racist. If you mean the fact I said 'black people think... ' ; you'll also notice I follow by saying 'white people think... ' I should have specified better, but I thought people would have been used to my repetitive shit by now - Obviously I'm referring to each specific people of each race who think like what I'm describing. I'm not liter-ally saying ALL black / ALL white; I'm referring to a specific kind of mindset, which is made obvious by context and the rest of my post.

[CrashBand]

Most black people aren't claiming pain from the past, lol. Racism is still a major problem in the US. I don't know why you're so fixated on the significance of this one misguided point - that black people feel their ancestors were treated badly, therefore they deserve more.

[EminemBase]

Most black people aren't claiming pain from the past, lol. Racism is still a major problem in the US. I don't know why you're so fixated on the significance of this one misguided point - that black people feel their ancestors were treated badly, therefore they deserve more.

THEY?

Like people NOW have the right to refer to a connection... ?

Black Americans born today are not THEY.

The Africans who went through slavery are STRANGERS to them / different generations, hundreds of years removed and of a totally different origin/families... there is no they.

This is the racism. Failing to see people in proper contexts, times and individualizes but rather forever connecting them to their history / or them themselves to it, due to race... silly shit.

[CrashBand]

I think you misinterpreted my post. You've stated that just because one's ancestor was treated badly, this person does not deserve preferential treatment and the connection between the person and their ancestor is weak anyway.

I didn't disagree with that. I just think it's misguided to think that's the main thing (black) people are complaining about. Racism exists, and is a problem.... currently.

[EminemBase]

I think you misinterpreted my post. You've stated that just because one's ancestor was treated badly, this person does not deserve preferential treatment and the connection between the person and their ancestor is weak anyway.

I didn't disagree with that. I just think it's misguided to think that's the main thing (black) people are complaining about. Racism exists, and is a problem.... currently.

Nah I'm not talking about the main swell or like... modern day race issues though...

Obviously racism and imbalance still exists...

I'm specifically speaking about cocks like Chris Rock who continuously (and seriously, he does, even in general conversation, it's fucking tedious and stupid) bring it up or act like they have a right (Spike Lee especially!!) to speak on fucking slavery. it's like... Spike, you have no fucking right to speak on the behalf of strangers who went through slavery... it's really pompous. Or try and make a race issue out of EVERYTHING; Kanye does this too aka in a recent interview saying something like "I may have won the most Grammy's but I've never won against a white person" even though he's actually wrong and has even beaten Eminem!... cunts like that just seem to be ITCHING to find racism, it's like they go out of their way to create it or make something about race when it isn't. It's just like... 'seriously, shut the fuck up already'... they WANT racism to be occurring so they can point it out and feel victimized it seems, forever creating abstract racist agendas and motives and theories for how racism is happening in every way shape or form, like the whole world is fucking plotting against them or engineering shit around their race.

Certain black Americans do this all, the fucking, time with shit.

But yeah, I agree with you that there's still general widespread... I mean, especially in America; I don't think in say... the UK so much, but yeah... America... America is always king of systematic injustices though. I mean, we could just go on for days. America is fucked lmao.

So yeah, we agree anyway, I'm not talking about the real racism that still exists, I'm talking about cocks like those I mentioned who go out of their way to make everything about it and think they have a privileged connection to ancestors or are like spokespeople for 'their' fucking race lmao. Guys like that... it's like they can't have a conversation without somehow relating it back to being a black man, I mean just look at Kanye's last two albums... it's like jesus fucking Christ. Any time they're successful or anything it's always "yeah, well as a African-American male...", this kind of obsessive and consistent focus in every single context actually hurts race relations IMO. Because they're the people now never disconnecting / seeing themselves and others as just 'people'... they're forever making every single statement, moment, achievement etc. ABOUT their race and as a collective.

So yeah, I'm speaking specifically about that. I find it really irritating.