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Postby ayla » Feb 4th, '07, 15:19

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ayla wrote:i think it is hard to judge because we only know what kim said. we do not know eminems side and we do not know what was said after, did she ask him why he did that? did he apologise? why did he do it? and really i am sure we have all done fucked up things in our lives that we regret but no one talks about them cuz we are not famous. i am sure kim has done really bad things as well but of course she is not going to talk about her mistake for example running away from the police and your family and young children not knowing where their mother is. i do not think one of them is worse than the other they have both made mistakes like everyone does.


Im not trying to turn this into an eminem>kim conversation, i gave my judgement from what i heard. If people are so quick to judge Kim as they usually are, im sure im not any wrong seeing things from her perspective for once.

Plus i dont believe in making a song ur wife for millions of people where u reinact killing her, i always found that side of eminem a bit disrespectfull and ignorant.


i am not turning this into an eminem>kim convo lmao. but it's easy to just hear an interview and just believe every word, if you looked a bit past it you would probably see they are bad as each other. at the end of the day the song is fictional practically the only piece of reality in the song is her name. if having a song about murder is wrong then i guess films about it and books about it is wrong too.
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '07, 15:27

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i am not turning this into an eminem>kim convo lmao. but it's easy to just hear an interview and just believe every word, if you looked a bit past it you would probably see they are bad as each other. at the end of the day the song is fictional practically the only piece of reality in the song is her name. if having a song about murder is wrong then i guess films about it and books about it is wrong too.


Hey, i already said, i chose to post what i posted from what i know. Its easy to say that its easy to say that there might be another sie to the story. It might just be plain and simple to the contrary, so i can basically flip the card on what ur saying too.

And songs about murder arent bad. Depicting ur own wife, the mother of ur children in a song were u murder them is. If my father recorded something like this about my mother, id grow up and beat his face into the ceiling.

nuff said, please. Ill stick to my opinion, you dont have to prove to me that it aint so, i aint gone start protesting against eminem on the streets over this bullshit (if he did something pussy thats his problem)
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Postby ayla » Feb 4th, '07, 16:23

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i am not turning this into an eminem>kim convo lmao. but it's easy to just hear an interview and just believe every word, if you looked a bit past it you would probably see they are bad as each other. at the end of the day the song is fictional practically the only piece of reality in the song is her name. if having a song about murder is wrong then i guess films about it and books about it is wrong too.


Hey, i already said, i chose to post what i posted from what i know. Its easy to say that its easy to say that there might be another sie to the story. It might just be plain and simple to the contrary, so i can basically flip the card on what ur saying too.

And songs about murder arent bad. Depicting ur own wife, the mother of ur children in a song were u murder them is. If my father recorded something like this about my mother, id grow up and beat his face into the ceiling.

nuff said, please. Ill stick to my opinion, you dont have to prove to me that it aint so, i aint gone start protesting against eminem on the streets over this bullshit (if he did something pussy thats his problem)


if you beat your father then you would be worse than your father. what eminem did was not real, it was fictoinal he never said any of those words to her in reality and he never beat or killed her. you get plenty of artists, writers etc creating stories based on some truth or someone they know, the only difference is the media picked up eminems. and you cannot really flip anything there were plenty of news reports about kims actions just liked eminem's, and it is obvious she must have gotten over the whole song otherwise she would not have remarried him.

i am not trying to change your opinion but what i was saying there is more to it than what she said, they are both as bad as each other. you think eminem is a bitch because he made up something, but you are saying you would literally beat your parent i think that is being a bitch.
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '07, 16:53

if you beat your father then you would be worse than your father. what eminem did was not real, it was fictoinal he never said any of those words to her in reality and he never beat or killed her.

Lol, dont take everything too serious. All i ment was i wouldnt want my father making such obsene tracks about my mother, no matter how bad she is or whatever.


you get plenty of artists, writers etc creating stories based on some truth or someone they know, the only difference is the media picked up eminems.

the other artists are just of idiots. if they do that
and you cannot really flip anything there were plenty of news reports about kims actions just liked eminem's, and it is obvious she must have gotten over the whole song otherwise she would not have remarried him.

I can and i did. I explained what i meant about her being over it.

i am not trying to change your opinion but what i was saying there is more to it than what she said, they are both as bad as each other. you think eminem is a bitch because he made up something, but you are saying you would literally beat your parent i think that is being a bitch.


I said it was my opinion that what he did was a bitch move according to the story. What part of what im saying isnt true? And i didnt say "litteraly" dont twist my words, but yes i would be mad at a father that resorts to such bitch moves as eminem did. :)
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Postby ayla » Feb 4th, '07, 17:46

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if you beat your father then you would be worse than your father. what eminem did was not real, it was fictoinal he never said any of those words to her in reality and he never beat or killed her.

Lol, dont take everything too serious. All i ment was i wouldnt want my father making such obsene tracks about my mother, no matter how bad she is or whatever.


don't take everything so seriously? how serious are you taking a fictional song? i just said my opinion that she brought up the past, saying something eminem did wrong a long time ago. put it this way she had to talk about something that happened 7 years ago to dish dirt on him. everyone makes mistakes and i am sure you wouldn't like it if someone always brought up your past mistakes especially if it was so long ago and you already made up/apologised etc after it and got past the problem. if this happened the other way round and eminem did an interview and started talking about things kim did wrong several years ago i would say the same thing.

i like how you turn 'beat his face into the ceiling' to 'i wouldn't want my father making such obscene tracks' lol you change your mind quick.
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '07, 18:01

don't take everything so seriously? how serious are you taking a fictional song? i just said my opinion that she brought up the past, saying something eminem did wrong a long time ago. put it this way she had to talk about something that happened 7 years ago to dish dirt on him. everyone makes mistakes and i am sure you wouldn't like it if someone always brought up your past mistakes especially if it was so long ago and you already made up/apologised etc after it and got past the problem.


Get over it, i just commented on the video NOW. I heard the interview now and found this little stroy out now.

if this happened the other way round and eminem did an interview and started talking about things kim did wrong several years ago i would say the same thing.


And that is supposed to bother me how?

i like how you turn 'beat his face into the ceiling' to 'i wouldn't want my father making such obscene tracks' lol you change your mind quick.


actually i traslated it for you. coz you actually read it as if someone can beat someones face into the ceiling. :whistle:

listen, get over the debate, everything said is an opinion. I doubt you take this shit that seriously to heart anyway. I'm not a one man army that can harm ur idols publicity but do have the right to speak my mind in which ever way i want, You don't make an overwhelming debate point to base a conclusion to one side or the other, neither do I.


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Postby ayla » Feb 4th, '07, 19:27

i don't have an idol the reason i said if it was the other way round was exactly for that reason because i do not idolise anyone. and take your own advice i disagreed with something you said, so get over it yourself.

hmm let me see eminem made a song about murdering her ex which was all fictional and a way to describe his anger. you make a statement that you would beat your father which was a way for you to describe your anger. hmm not much difference there, you just disrespected your father by saying such disrespectful and ignorant things, i think you need to look in the mirror and admit your bitch move :giggle:
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Postby 4D » Feb 4th, '07, 19:35

Congratz to Ayla, for kickin Asp's ass! :worship:

Lol.

Eminem always considered doing songs like Kim, his therapy, men and woman have killed their partners for worse than she did, gettin pregnant to another man, is the lowest of the low, him performing that song to her live is her getting her come-uppence, she deserved that. And her then to slit her wrists, totally disregarding her daughter, is the real bitch move here.
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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '07, 19:36

i don't have an idol the reason i said if it was the other way round was exactly for that reason because i do not idolise anyone. and take your own advice i disagreed with something you said, so get over it yourself.

ok im over it.


hmm let me see eminem made a song about murdering her ex which was all fictional and a way to describe his anger. you make a statement that you would beat your father which was a way for you to describe your anger. hmm not much difference there, you just disrespected your father by saying such disrespectful and ignorant things, i think you need to look in the mirror and admit your bitch move :giggle:


Ok, now i take the "peace" back.

pretending to kill ur wife on a record that sells 10 million, is not the same as making a statement that your gone disrespect ur father for making that record.

catch 22.

Obviously my father never made such bitch moves to disrespect my mother on a record that sells 10 million, bragging about it and getting rich of it, So i would never have to commit such a retaliation motivated by such a disrespectfull record. A person that acts that way is a bitch. Im yet to meet people of the kind.


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Postby AspirinE » Feb 4th, '07, 19:43

FORDIE wrote:Eminem always considered doing songs like Kim, his therapy, men and woman have killed their partners for worse than she did, gettin pregnant to another man, is the lowest of the low, him performing that song to her live is her getting her come-uppence, she deserved that. And her then to slit her wrists, totally disregarding her daughter, is the real bitch move here.



She got the song recorded for her that sold 10 million, she got humiliateed tby that fact alone, she didnt get custody of the kids.

Eminem saying he wouldnt perform that song on stage than playing it on purpose to humiliate her even more using fame as an advantage, seems like shit move to me. But as i said thats my opinion. We all see shit differently and judge differently. I aint asked u to agree with me, neigher did i say that YOU should respect him less for that, thats what i felt like and I said it.
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Postby 4D » Feb 4th, '07, 19:45

Yeah, I think it was justice.
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Postby hotcopper » Feb 4th, '07, 22:10

And @hotcopper: wouldn't it have seemed pretty odd - even sarcastic and spiteful - if she'd have thanked him for all the money in that interview on national tv? Besides I'm not so sure she really appreciates all the money, it seems to me as if she feels it's money and fame that has ruined a lot of her life, but that's just an assumption.


I wasn't saying that she should thank him on national television in that moment; I mean over the years since he's come up through words and deeds between them she could've made it clear that she appreciated it. As far as her appreciating or wanting money, I don't think she would've tried to sue him for $10 million around the time of their first divorce and I think that they would've been able to come to a settlement more quickly if she hadn't wanted more money. That being said- I think she deserves a fair share; definitely not half but they were together for a long time and she did stand by him when he didn't have anything.
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Postby spitz » Feb 4th, '07, 22:14

how about we just stop hoppin in his life for a couple minutes huh?
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Postby dgentz » Feb 4th, '07, 22:20

i dont believe her worth shit. but thats me
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Postby Curious » Feb 4th, '07, 22:39

hotcopper wrote:
And @hotcopper: wouldn't it have seemed pretty odd - even sarcastic and spiteful - if she'd have thanked him for all the money in that interview on national tv? Besides I'm not so sure she really appreciates all the money, it seems to me as if she feels it's money and fame that has ruined a lot of her life, but that's just an assumption.


I wasn't saying that she should thank him on national television in that moment; I mean over the years since he's come up through words and deeds between them she could've made it clear that she appreciated it. As far as her appreciating or wanting money, I don't think she would've tried to sue him for $10 million around the time of their first divorce and I think that they would've been able to come to a settlement more quickly if she hadn't wanted more money. That being said- I think she deserves a fair share; definitely not half but they were together for a long time and she did stand by him when he didn't have anything.


how do u know she's never said to him she appreciated it?

and call me naive but i don't think that lawsuit had that much to do with money but had everything to do with pride and revenge - i'd have sued his white ass as well if it had been me n i wouldn't have settled for 10 million

and i think they'd have come to a settlement more quickly if there'd been a prenup lol
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